Posted on 12/01/2022 7:07:10 PM PST by semimojo
They only have to certify if their count is complete. Which it was in Cochise.
Yeah, if you think legal analysis is repeating talking points from Democrat party emails
What if the Cochise County officials tell this Odungo judge to fardel off? Can the case make it to a higher court?
Well, a majority of the supervisors have to agree.
The certification is basically to enter an official count into the record. Challenges to the accuracy of the count, etc., can be filed in court once there's an official count.
The only real basis not to certify is if the supervisors don't feel they have and can't get an accurate count in their county.
Yup they can force people to certify something that is clearly uncertifiable. Kind of like forcing someone to certify that an airplane is safe to fly when it is not. That is evil. Why doesn’t the state just certify these elections themselves? No sense in the counties having anything to do with it when it is nothing more than show.
Do like Democrat congressmen; leave the state and dare her to come after you. Every day that passes she looks more desperate.
Each county certifies their own results. Cochise’s supervisors had no problem with theirs and Maricopa’s had none with theirs.
There’s no legal basis for Cochise County supervisors to weigh in on Maricopa’s results either way.
Why even have a certification process if they have no choice except to certify no matter what.
TO DECIEVE THE VOTERS...
No duty to certify a stolen election. Nor one that has evidence of being tampered with.
Kevin McCarthy, Ronna McDaniel, and leaders like Elise Stefanik have made a big mistake by not calling for a redo election with all of those disenfranchised voters. I’d expect Mitch McConnell to not want her to win.
People don’t seem to get that if you say that Kari Lake’s election was stolen then so was the election of all the downballot Republicans who won also. Mike Pillow never talks about that part.
It makes no sense that Democrats would steal the elections but not steal the House.
Obviously Biden would want to have the House to pass his bills. Republican leaning voters are tired of this stuff. Time to move on like Trump did.
As I said, “What does the law say is the procedure should a county’s vote not be certified”? I should have also asked, “What does the law say should there be allegations of fraud or voters not being able to vote on election day due to faulty machines?” Surely there are laws in place? If not, there should be after all the accusations over the past years. The democrats have made sure to pass laws so that everyone can vote in advance for no reason at all and with very little checks and balances in place. What has the GOP done to make sure that election day voting is secure so that THEIR voter’s ballot counts? Very little, but still they ask us to appear to cast our vote on election day. How do we know those votes will be counted? It appears Arizona democrats, at least, made sure to make that day as chaotic as possible. Are there laws that deal with that chaos? If not, the GOP has dropped the ball since they are the ones that begged us to vote on election day to overwhelm the democrats.
Do the democrats just make sure there is nothing in the state statutes that address those issue? GOP-controlled State legislatures should pass laws to put in place procedures should issues such as faulty machines take place. Why haven’t they?
finding that its members had no authority to shirk a duty required under state law...
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Shirk ?
Clowns.
Crooks
Spit.
Exactly what I was thinking!
i am not a lawyer but i presume that anything involving money gives legal standing to sue or appeal as the case may be.
i would wonder if due process violation of defendants’ rights to be represented by the attorneys of their choice were somehow involved (and maybe some other legal principles as well). the judge seems to have made a calculation that the matter won’t be appealed and if it will, it will be upheld at the appeals level.
if the defendants are basing their stand on events outside of their county, then maybe all bets are off. is a purported lack of certification of the machines by the state an issue?
Once again a political ruling, only loosely based on law.
“In other words, certification is a meaningless rite designed to make the common folks think their votes are meaningful.”
Has been ever since the Pence apologists here explained it as ceremonial. Because the founding fathers wrote up ceremonial shows, it seems.
Was this litigated before this judge with evidence presented both pro and con, or is this judge inserting his own opinion as fact and then ruling on that?
-PJ
Furthermore, their refusal to certify was delaying Kari Lake from filing legal actions in a very time sensitive process.
At the end of the day, any election challenge must rise or fall on the merits of their case and the supporting evidence.
There were very serious irregularities in Maricopa and Pima counties.
The irregularities in Maricopa are the most blatant, most well documented and have the best supporting evidence.
Much of the 2022 Maricopa County irregularities are the same as those in 2020.
If the Republicans have their acts together, then they were collecting evidence of the 2020 style scams as the election progressed.
Well documented, unimpeachable evidence of misconduct will go a long way to making sure Republicans prevaile in any challenges.
For example, things like documenting ballot harvesting, which is illegal in Az, and using professional investigators to personally identify the ballot harvesters. Once identified, their operations can be traced and the cash being paid ( between $20 and $50 per ballot harvested) can be tracked back to the people illegally funding these operations.
Another example is fraudulent mail in ballots. There was an extensive canvass to establish the legitimacy of the voter registrations in Maricopa County. Over 100K and perhaps as many as 300K illegitimate registrations were identified. Comparing this data base to find out how many of these phantom voters voted in 2022 could be very helpful as well.
Obviously, the co mingling of untabulated “ Door 3 “ ballot with already tabulated ballots is a major problem that must be addressed.
And a ton of other issues
Arizona Attny Gen Abe Hamdeh has a vote margin of around 531 votes. This is significant for two reasons. First there will be an automatic recount in his race. Second , and more importantly, the vote spread is so small that he has a slam dunk case that the impact of the Maricopa County irregularities were a decisive factor in the outcome of the election.
Cheating Abe was a big mistake made by the people who manipulated the election in Maricopa County because he as a very good case for disenfranchisement to prosecute. He may be able to force serious scrutiny and remedies in Maricopa County in a timely enough fashion to have serious impact.
They should have let him win.
At any rate, this is going to be interesting.
“If you force someone to certify something they think is fraudulent, they have no duty to obey.”
The Cochise Superintendents weren’t being asked to certify anything fraudulent. They were refusing to certify Cochise County in protest over the mess in Mariposa County. I’ve never heard anyone explain how throwing away votes in Republican Cochise County was going to resolve the mess in Mariposa County.
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