Posted on 10/19/2022 1:41:15 PM PDT by dennisw
The Americans did the same in Korea. What nation with nukes has never threatened to use them, even if they say so indirectly. Get real
June 2020, Putin signed a decree—the Basic Principles of the Russian Federation’s State Policy in the Domain of Nuclear Deterrence: “ The Russian Federation retains the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear weapons and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and/or its allies and also in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is put under threat”
Putin is the one who first started talking about using nukes ... not NATO
Bullshit
From the article:
Vladimir Putin has repeatedly threatened to use Russia's nuclear arsenal as his war in Ukraine falls apart...
Bullshit. The clown in the White House talked about "nuclear armageddon" and the clown in Ukraine talked about preepmptive nuclear strikes on Russia. Those were the first specific references to nuclear weapons from officials involved in the war.
You are gravely mistaken with this assumption.
“No, it isn’t effective. Nobody believes it .”
Everybody believes it, except for you. It being Putin’s possible nuke demo over the Black Sea.
You are NOT quoting his actual words. You are quoting “what you think that he meant to say, according to what we believe he meant to say.”
QUOTE HIS EXACT WORDS.
“Don’t forget the crazy Zelensky, who actually kept DEMANDING (not even merely asking) that Amerca launch nuclear missiles at Russia for Putin even THINKING about nuclear weapons use.”
I know you are pro-Russia, and anti-Ukraine. But, please; try to be honest with your comments: Zelensky said there should be a pre-emptive attack to prevent Russia from launching a nuclear attack. Zelensky said nothing about the US or anyone else using nuclear weapons to effect that result. Maybe he wished it; maybe he didn’t. But he never SAID it. One of his aides said that there should be nuclear RETALIATORY strikes, but not nuclear PRE-EMPTIVE strikes.
Try sticking to the facts. We’ll all be better off.
So produce the evidence.
Then, produce the evidence. And, while you’re at it, answer the questions we had about your fictional DD-214.
A strike on nuclear capability is effectively a ‘nuclear strike’ even if conventional weapons are used. It puts the adversary in a “use your nukes or lose them” situation, practically guaranteeing for-real nuclear war.
“If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will without doubt use all available means to protect Russia and our people - this is not a bluff,” Putin said in a televised address to the nation.
####### Annexation vote was 3 weeks later. Putin has declared these territories part of Russia.
UK Daily Propaganda
travis mcgee:This is a lie. Please show the exact quote.
I too would like to see that quote, with a date and link for context.
“I believe there’s a saying about a cornered animal.”
Considering Russia still controls about 1/9 of the landmass on planet earth, that’s an awfully large “corner”.
What percentage is populated though?
“A strike on nuclear capability is effectively a ‘nuclear strike’ even if conventional weapons are used.”
No, it’s not. The STRIKE is not nuclear. Using conventional weapons to take out the launcher, or the transport vehicles, or command-and-control, is not a nuclear strike.
It’s like sinking a boomer with a depth charge or a conventional torpedo. Sinking that boomer would not be a nuclear strike. It would be the use of a conventional weapon to take out the delivery system.
Ditto for using a SAM to shoot down a bomber that is carrying nuclear-armed cruise missiles. The launch of that SAM is not a nuclear strike.
“USSR/Russia has every tank they ever made.”
No, they donated quite a few to Ukraine recently :)
Then, produce the evidence. And, while you’re at it, answer the questions we had about your fictional DD-214.
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