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Someone Is Betting That the Market Will Collapse
Barrons ^ | OCT 13, 2022 | Steven Sears

Posted on 10/13/2022 8:53:27 PM PDT by lasereye

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To: noiseman
...I’m certainly no expert in options trading, but am I reading this right that the total investment is 50,000 X 19 cents = $9,500?...

One options contract is for 100 shares at the strike price, so it is really $950,000.

While this cuts down the number of players who can make that bet, it is not as exclusive a club as the authors think. And for a lot of people, and hedge funds, this is nothing but pocket change.

The absolute truth about 99% of all financial writing is that the people who write it get paid by the column-inch to churn it out. So no matter how bad the drivel written might be, the authors don't get paid if they don't write it.

21 posted on 10/13/2022 9:57:42 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: sauropod

There were some puts (negative bets) on airline stocks bought before 9-11 that raised some eyebrows. I don’t think the purchasers ever collected their winnings


22 posted on 10/13/2022 9:58:29 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: montag813

They are going to get burned. A massive rally is in store.


pass me whatever your smoking.


23 posted on 10/13/2022 10:11:49 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: CFW

🤔🤔🤔


24 posted on 10/13/2022 10:11:57 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: CurlyDave

If held until expiration it would be roughly 750/1 on a crash?

If that is accurate, it seems really short.


25 posted on 10/13/2022 10:13:46 PM PDT by Freest Republican
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To: Big Red Badger

(1/12/2023)

🤔


26 posted on 10/13/2022 10:15:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: noiseman

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It’s $950,000

That was one person. Many other trades are doing the same.


27 posted on 10/13/2022 10:19:37 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: lasereye

If nothing else, it should beg the question as to why a huge position can be placed on a “bet” in the stock market that wagers the economy will fail without a name associated with it. You make a huge bet that the market will fail, you should at least be named and have a chance for the market to know who you are before it happens. Is it Soros? Is it China? Is it Putin? Is it some stripper who just did a line off Hunter’s left buttcheek?

Deep diving researchers can make some very clever insights into these types of stake claims, but really it shouldn’t need deep analysis. Big claims should have names attached to them. People, brokerage houses, accounts, etc...


28 posted on 10/13/2022 10:29:02 PM PDT by jz638
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To: algore

9/11 terrorists made millions on the stock market

https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/911-terrorists-made-millions-on-the-stock-market,3738


29 posted on 10/13/2022 10:30:49 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: lasereye

Sorros?


30 posted on 10/13/2022 10:32:31 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: lasereye

The return of Trump.


31 posted on 10/13/2022 10:40:43 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: lasereye
“Another possible extreme tail event would be nuclear war,” McMillan wrote in a note to clients. “I can’t think of much of anything else. In the case of nuclear war, though, the markets might not even be open, and this trader might not even be able to cash in on his ‘bet’ if he survived.”

Spot on!

Regards,

32 posted on 10/13/2022 10:44:39 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: lasereye

It doesn’t take a soothsayer to figure out that the markets are collapsing.

Everything was royally screwed up in 2016 when President Trump pulled us back from the brink with some common sense America-first policy.

But even with eight years of sanity under President Trump - saving the Republic was always going to be a long shot. The swamp is to vast and the debt is too huge.

They’ve printed too much fake money and pissed away too much of our manufacturing base. They’ve brainwashed far too many people.

Then they outright stole a presidential election and that was it.

There’s no saving us now.


33 posted on 10/13/2022 11:15:05 PM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: jz638
You make a huge bet that the market will fail, you should at least be named and have a chance for the market to know who you are before it happens.
It's become a mantra that's plastered all over the news every single day...It's simply "the market".

The market, the market, the market, the market, the market.

34 posted on 10/13/2022 11:21:25 PM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: montag813

“They are going to get burned. A massive rally is in store.”

I think so too. The market has been flooded with an endless stream of bad news. It is so ripe for a move up, that it doesn’t need good news to move up, just a pause of the bad news would be enough.


35 posted on 10/13/2022 11:29:37 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: jz638; lasereye

“If nothing else, it should beg the question as to why a huge position can be placed on a “bet” in the stock market that wagers the economy will fail without a name associated with it.”

Betting $950000 in the market is peanuts. Everyday half a trillion dollars are traded.


36 posted on 10/13/2022 11:42:16 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: PLMerite

That’s about as likely as her visiting the border in Brownsville or McAllen Tx


37 posted on 10/13/2022 11:46:48 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Moleman

Where the hell is Beeks?


38 posted on 10/14/2022 1:03:58 AM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: CFW

Is that what used to be called the “plunge protection scheme?” Or kind of a reverse pump and dump?

Who is big enough to manipulate the markets like today?


39 posted on 10/14/2022 1:10:53 AM PDT by boxlunch (Red State governors, kick the fednazis OUT of red states! BTW, We are a REPUBLIC not a democracy!)
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To: montag813
Correct. They aren't betting the market will collapse, but just hedging just in case it does. Pretty normal, and very cheap at that price for a institution. But, we will rally into opex, and after the election. Fall again after Christmas; rinse and repeat.
40 posted on 10/14/2022 1:18:43 AM PDT by Theoria
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