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Victims' families, politicians condemn life sentence verdict by Nikolas Cruz jury
Palm Beach Post ^ | Oct 13 , 2022 | Jorge Milian Hannah Phillips

Posted on 10/13/2022 1:37:36 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse

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To: LeoWindhorse

I am fine with the death penalty in general, but it doesn’t bring back any victims, and it takes so long for us to do it that the deterrent effect is dampened to nearly being non-existent.

In this case, if he had been strung up publicly within a week of the event, people would take notice, and might think twice before committing such acts. Since we don’t do that, I don’t really see that much of a distinction between the life sentence or the death penalty for Cruz.


21 posted on 10/13/2022 2:17:20 PM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: Irenic

Here is a question, WHAT IF....yes what if, some group let it be known to the inmate population that we’d be extremely grateful if this murderer were to die in prison. And that their commissary account would have a couple of thousand in it.

Would that be prosecutable?


22 posted on 10/13/2022 2:18:05 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: LeoWindhorse
Under Florida law, is the judge bound by the jury's decision, or is it merely a recommendation?

The article's pathetic writer doesn't specify--which ought to be its central point, and no lower than its second paragraph.

23 posted on 10/13/2022 2:19:08 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” Acts 2:47 -- It's still true!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

My observations. The hate for Assault Rifles was unanimous in all the victims families. So this is a crisis they are going to exploit as the gun’s fault. But in the bigger picture the subliminal brainwashing that all these shootings have been “the gun’s fault” may have been the jury’s Achilles heel with the decision.

The subconscious “fault of the gun” may have influenced and mentally took priority over the fault of the shooter. And why they did not give him death. In their subconscious minds it was not 100% “all” his fault, most was the gun’s fault because that is how they have been brainwashed to think...


24 posted on 10/13/2022 2:22:41 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

In this case she is bound.


25 posted on 10/13/2022 2:23:11 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PGR88
Sentencing someone to death is a big responsibility, and its a good thing, as a society, we don’t treat it lightly. I know many people who simply couldn’t do it.

I could.

God established the death penalty for a number of crimes, murder being the chief one.

If God decreed it, the justice needs to be served and His Laws obeyed.

26 posted on 10/13/2022 2:23:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

I believe the jury’s verdict is final.


27 posted on 10/13/2022 2:26:15 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: PGR88

Exactly who should be executed, if not Cruz? Allowing monsters like this to live is one more stake in the heart of civilization. For me, these soft jurors punished the families one final time.


28 posted on 10/13/2022 2:26:21 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: LeoWindhorse

What’s the difference? People sentenced to death seem to live out their lives on appeals and delays anyway.


29 posted on 10/13/2022 2:26:49 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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To: LeoWindhorse

He deserves public hanging.....


30 posted on 10/13/2022 2:28:34 PM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: Codeflier

The system is sick, poisoned by the left. The elongated process in death penalty cases is only a reason to shorten it. I would execute this sub-human tomorrow.


31 posted on 10/13/2022 2:30:39 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: beancounter13

The fear factor of being put to death and knowing the date certain is enough of a deterrent to other would be killers to make it worth societies while to carry it out.

It’s always been a penalty AND a deterrent, as it should be.


32 posted on 10/13/2022 2:32:23 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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To: fightin kentuckian

Got me but I’m thinking about Dahmer on Netflix...perhaps it will inspire a prisoner or two. I feel pretty confident that the prisoners will stomp this little wuss into dust.


33 posted on 10/13/2022 2:32:49 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: william clark

I’m for the death penalty except…you couldn’t kill the person dead enough to assuage my anger if a loved one was killed or badly harmed. To do that, you would have to revive and kill them over and over…

So a sentence of life without parole makes the prisoner “suffer” over an extended period of time except…do they really suffer?

Given reports from inside prison, yes and no. However, if the conditions of imprisonment were so hellish that the inmates were applying to be executed, then life without the possibility of parole would probably provide satisfaction to the families that fitting punishment was being applied.


34 posted on 10/13/2022 2:46:22 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: Openurmind; Tijeras_Slim

Thanks.


35 posted on 10/13/2022 2:55:35 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” Acts 2:47 -- It's still true!)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

You’re welcome.


36 posted on 10/13/2022 3:43:11 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: LeoWindhorse; All

I may be incorrect but, if he is sentenced to death that would preclude his release, which is not assured with “life without parole.”


37 posted on 10/13/2022 4:34:59 PM PDT by A strike (LGBFJRoberts)
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To: beancounter13
All right - tell me then what would you feel if you were on a gurney knowing you were about to be lethally injected and die - in 10 minutes.
38 posted on 10/13/2022 4:37:46 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: LeoWindhorse

He will have to be in a prison somewhere. There are plenty of inmates who could be encouraged to see that justice is done.


39 posted on 10/13/2022 5:20:53 PM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: william clark

AS long as he is alive there is a chance the perp will become the client of attention seeking, bleeding heart attorneys looking to make a name for themselves by scheming some way-out theory on why the poor black boy was not guilty. All it takes is a “progressive” judge.


40 posted on 10/13/2022 5:34:06 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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