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The Bornholm Blow-Up Repeats the Bornholm Bash — Poland Attacks Germany and Blames Russia
.nakedcapitalism.com ^ | September 28, 2022 | by Lambert Strether

Posted on 09/28/2022 6:42:40 PM PDT by cuz1961

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Hmmm.

1 posted on 09/28/2022 6:42:40 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

Was a pretty good read, but that just my take.


2 posted on 09/28/2022 6:44:21 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cuz1961

Ping


3 posted on 09/28/2022 6:47:28 PM PDT by WhattheDickens? (Funny, I didn’t think this was 1984…)
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To: cranked

It’s looking like the REAL WAR will not even involve Ukraine, but instead will be something like Germany versus Poland (especially after taking out the pipelines).

On the good side Europe has pretty much dumped all of their weapons in Ukraine, so they won’t have much to fight with.


4 posted on 09/28/2022 6:50:31 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 43 degrees)
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To: cuz1961

....the invasion and occupation of 1939-45; ...

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Germany and Russia did gangrape poland going east then again going west in ww2. I could see them wanting some payback.

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5 posted on 09/28/2022 6:51:59 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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This is pretty much what you need to know:

“Helmer has also been a professor of political science, and an advisor to government heads in Greece, the United States, and Asia. He is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter) to establish himself in Russia. “

Lol

He is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter)


6 posted on 09/28/2022 6:52:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: BobL

From what I am gathering over the last few weeks is that things in the EU are far worse than the Western/UK/EU/US/NATO propaganda ridden media is letting on.

A feeding frenzy, of sorts, might ensue if things continue to deteriorate, imho.


7 posted on 09/28/2022 6:52:41 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Fedora; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Helmer has also been a professor of political science, and an advisor to government heads in Greece, the United States, and Asia. He is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter) to establish himself in Russia. .../snip

Was this guy involved in Nicaragua, too?


8 posted on 09/28/2022 6:55:57 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Nord Stream AG has started mobilization of all necessary resources for a survey campaign to assess the damages in cooperation exchange with relevant local authorities.

Currently, it is not possible to estimate a timeframe for restoring the gas transport infrastructure. The causes of the incident will be clarified as a result of the investigation.”

The European sanctions regime blocked company officials from investigating at the site.

Who the hell is in charge of this "European sanctions regime" that is high-handedly blocking the Nord Stream investigators from finding out the saboteurs who blew the Nord Stream pipeline?

9 posted on 09/28/2022 7:02:56 PM PDT by henbane
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To: cuz1961

So blow up the new Norwegian line into Poland.


10 posted on 09/28/2022 7:03:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: piasa

Why yes, it looks like it. Who is he married to...


11 posted on 09/28/2022 7:11:10 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

An advisor to government heads in Greece... wonder if that was when the USSR was backing Greek terrorists.


12 posted on 09/28/2022 7:14:29 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

This piece does the all the pieces into a plausabl scenario,,,

BUT

He ( Helmer) is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter)

Raises a red flag for me.
Can anything good come from a prog admin ?

Maybe this account is a fabricated, agreed upon , narrative meant to diffuse the whole clusterf%#!.

To walk the world back from a big ugly.


13 posted on 09/28/2022 7:16:50 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

This piece does tie all the pieces into a plausabl scenario,,,

BUT

He ( Helmer) is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter)

Raises a red flag for me.
Can anything good come from a prog admin ?

Maybe this account is a fabricated, agreed upon , narrative meant to diffuse the whole clusterf%#!.

To walk the world back from a big ugly.


14 posted on 09/28/2022 7:18:18 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: DesertRhino

The newly opened line is only about 10% of the capacity of NS1 and NS2, and much of that 10% will be for Poland, so it won’t have much of an effect on general EU shortages.

Nor will it flow much more gas than it would have with NS1 and NS2 online.

Over all, I’d say that the removal of NS1 and NS2 would not have much effect on the profits from the new pipeline, due to it’s comparatively low capacity.

So I doubt the new pipeline is connected to the sabotage events.


15 posted on 09/28/2022 7:21:20 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: cuz1961

Helmer was also advisor to Andreas Georgiou Papandreou of Greece, under whom communist groups were legitimized and the Greek healthcare system was socialized. who once declared that the USSR couldn’t be imperialist because it wasn’t capitalist. He went on to claim only capitalist countries could be imperialist. So, it is probably safe to say his one time advisor is one of Putin’s mouthpieces.


16 posted on 09/28/2022 7:25:23 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: cuz1961

Radek Sikorski
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I do not think, he is a reliable source.
He is a very vocal opponent of the current Polish government, trying to badmouth them in every possible way.
So this could just be one of his plots to conspire against the Polish government.


17 posted on 09/28/2022 7:40:55 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: cuz1961
Most of what is now Poland was Germany. Poland in 1914 was mostly in Russia.


18 posted on 09/28/2022 8:05:42 PM PDT by FarCenter
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https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/27/poland-nord-stream-sabotage-baltic-pipeline/

Thank You, U.S.A.’: Why Is Poland’s EU Rep Cheering Nord Stream’s Potential Sabotage?

MICAELA BURROW
REPORTER
September 27, 2022

One Polish official appeared to cheer the suspected sabotage on the Nord Stream gas pipelines Tuesday as his country celebrated the completion of its own northern pipeline project.

European Parliament representative for Poland Radek Sikorski said “Thank you, U.S.A.!” in a tweet Thursday as European Union officials traveled to Goleniów, Poland, to inaugurate their own pipeline project. The partially EU-funded Baltic Pipe project will bring Norwegian natural gas to Poland through Denmark, and simultaneously create an export market for Poland in Denmark. (RELATED: ‘Act Of Sabotage’: Europe Investigates Massive Leaks From Nord Stream Pipelines)

“BTW, there’s no shortage of pipeline capacity for taking gas from Russia to Western Europe, including Germany,” Sikorski said after comments to his initial statement derided the U.S. for cutting off a potential energy source for Europe. “Nordstream’s only logic was for Putin to be able to blackmail or wage war on Eastern Europe with impunity,” he added.

Sikorski then addressed Russia’s foreign ministry. “Someone … did a special maintenance operation,” he said, referencing the official Russian label of “special military operation” for the war in Ukraine. He shared a video of President Joe Biden vowing to axe Nord Stream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine.

“All Ukrainian and Baltic sea states have opposed Nordstream’s construction for 20 years. Now $20 billion of scrap metal lies at the bottom of the sea, another cost to Russia of its criminal decision to invade Ukraine,” Sikorski added.

Polish Prime Minister Morawiecki immediately attributed the pipeline damage to sabotage connected directly with escalation of the conflict in Ukraine, according to Reuters.

The CIA warned Germany in the summer of possible attacks on the crucial pipelines.

Poland fought the construction of Nord Stream 2, according to German-language paper Der Spiegel, UAWire reported. The Polish Energy Regulatory Office dispatched a letter to Germany’s economy ministry in 2021 arguing that the pipeline, which would allow Russia to double its gas exports directly to Germany, might “jeopardize the security of gas supplies to certain member states, regions or even the entire European Union.”

Nord Stream 2 was set to come into full operation in early 2022 before German Chancellor Olaf Scholz put a pause on the inauguration as a response to Russian aggression. Since then, European countries have looked to diversify natural gas sourcing away from Russia as the Kremlin steadily crimped gas supply through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.

The EU’s Baltic Pipeline will come partially online on Oct. 1. Transmission system operators Energinet and GAZ-SYSTEM say gas flows should reach full capacity by November.

An earlier-than-expected date for pipeline completion could bring in double the amount of gas initially anticipated, Reuters reported.

“The Baltic Pipe is a key project for the security of supply of the region and the result of an EU policy drive to diversify sources of gas. The pipeline will play a valuable role in mitigating the current energy crisis,” EU Commissioner for Energy Kadri Simson said in a statement.

Energinet said the company had implemented “a number of precautionary measures” including “increased surveillance and security” in response to a question from the Daily Caller News Foundation about the apparent Nord Stream sabotage.

Poland’s foreign ministry issued an advisory warning citizens against traveling to Russia later on Tuesday, citing “Russian authorities recognising Poland as a hostile state,” TVP World reported.

A spokesman for Sikorski declined to comment. The Polish foreign ministry and embassy and GAZ-SYSTEM did not respond to the DCNF’s requests for comment.


19 posted on 09/28/2022 8:13:41 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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Is there a version of this by someone who speaks English?


20 posted on 09/28/2022 8:14:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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