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Inside the Ukrainian Counterstrike That Turned the Tide of the War
Time.com ^ | September 26, 2022 | SIMON SHUSTER AND VERA BERGENGRUEN

Posted on 09/26/2022 3:29:34 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: ought-six

“And they post the exact same comments, verbatim. They must all be reading off the same sheet, the one provided by their handlers.”

And when their beloved Mother Russia’s soldiers get their asses thoroughly handed to them as they did in Kharkiv Oblast, they parrot the “Russians are just regrouping” nonsense. If their beloved motherland were so sure of victory, why did it call up another 300,000 units of cannon fodder?


21 posted on 09/26/2022 4:35:27 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: ought-six

The translations from the original Russian seem to be getting better, too.


22 posted on 09/26/2022 4:47:37 PM PDT by Aeneas2112
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To: ScottinVA

It’s like when you read ancient Egyptian accounts of wars. They win battle, after battle, gloriously!

Steadily closer to home.


23 posted on 09/26/2022 4:49:21 PM PDT by Aeneas2112
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To: ScottinVA

It must sting, seeing their glorious stronk-man master-strategist putin and his ‘2nd best army in the world’ getting its ass kicked by a force led by a jew who wears high heels while playing the piano with his dick. That really has to cause a lot of cognitive dissonance in their little vatnik heads.


24 posted on 09/26/2022 5:01:16 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Uh, look at the maps and compute the area yourself, vs what the Russians claimed to control previously. Yes you can do this. You can even use online Russian source maps for this, the Russians admit to withrawing to their state borders in the area.

It is absurd to play textual games with weeks-old statements.


25 posted on 09/26/2022 5:08:39 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Kazan

Regardless of anybody’s side in the war, George Webb has said there has already been a peace deal and payoffs done and will be announced before the election to help save the Democrats. He is usually ahead of the curve. Makes sense but we will see.

I do not think anything is saving the Dems.


26 posted on 09/26/2022 5:10:45 PM PDT by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!S)
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To: Timber Rattler

If you get your military analysis from Time magazine you might not have a clue.


27 posted on 09/26/2022 5:11:24 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ScottinVA

“If their beloved motherland were so sure of victory, why did it call up another 300,000 units of cannon fodder?”

I asked that very same question of another pro-Russia poster; and, not surprisingly, he didn’t answer.


28 posted on 09/26/2022 5:16:56 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Timber Rattler

29 posted on 09/26/2022 5:18:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ScottinVA
. Your beloved Mother Russia is getting routed in each encounter now.

How is that possible given that Russian territory is expanding and Ukrainian territory is shrinking? Answer the damn question>

Russian Derangement Syndrome makes one stupid.

This kind of delusion is killing Ukrainians, inflicting sanctions on the west that is fueling inflation and costing US taxpayers billions.

30 posted on 09/26/2022 5:27:28 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Fool. Trump will be harassed until the US government falls (the actual government, not what you elect).

Ukraine MAY win; the issue is still in doubt either way. But in any case, Ukraine has punched way above its weight, and Russia way below its own.


31 posted on 09/26/2022 5:31:42 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

You do know Ukraine had the second largest Army in Europe.


32 posted on 09/26/2022 5:34:41 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: Kazan

At the moment Russians are losing a lot of ground on the Eastern Front. The Ukrainians have a breakthrough east of the Oskil that, weather permitting, will permit them to cut off all frontline Russian forces in the Luhansk region. The Russians seem unable to create a stopline.


33 posted on 09/26/2022 5:35:45 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: navysealdad

That is not saying much, and is probably wrong if you count the Poles.

The Russians, in theory, had a much larger standing army, by four times, and certainly a vastly larger armed forces overall.


34 posted on 09/26/2022 5:38:48 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Kazan

Have you bothered to look at the change in the Ukraine situational map from April to now? The Ukrainians have blown the Russians back to their border from the region around Kyiv, have taken Kharkiv Oblast and are threatening Donetsk. WTH makes you think that the Russians, who are literally getting whacked on the battlefield and are running from the fight like a gaggle of terrified rabbits while leaving behind billion$ in weaponry, will make their fake referendums on those three regions stand up? And don’t bother clinging to the hope that shrunken KGB mongol in the Kremlin will be able to pull off a nuke strike without having his ass deposed in a coup. That’s simply not going to happen.

You people are truly insane. Russia is headed for defeat and you and the rest of the Putinists would be well served to accept that undeniable fact.

Now go away.


35 posted on 09/26/2022 5:47:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: ought-six

Exactly. They can’t answer.. at least not with facts.


36 posted on 09/26/2022 5:48:38 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: buwaya

Exactly. The Russians are facing an opponent with superior, more advanced weaponry, far stronger motivation, and better trained personnel. Hopefully this will be a fatal mistake for that diminutive, misshapen mongol in the Kremlin.


37 posted on 09/26/2022 5:53:22 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Timber Rattler

With no one to trust, I have few opinions about this war (other than that it’s Joey’s war), but from what I have seen it’s clear to me that the only reason Kee-ev isn’t now occupied by the Ruskies is due to US imbeds.

I have no information on this other than the logic that, as in Afghanistan, the locals can’t shoot straight much less know where to shoot without some, uh, guidance, as well as some better things to shoot with.


38 posted on 09/26/2022 6:21:53 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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39 posted on 09/26/2022 6:42:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: nicollo

According to the Zelenskyy ‘tards on FR, it’s because Ukrainians are fiercer, tougher, stronger, more intelligent, and better soldiers than the Russians. They have apparently forgotten that this “new and improved” Ukrainian army is being bankrolled by the West, and they’ve been trained and supported by American soldiers. The Ukrainian ppl actually have little to do with the current Ukrainian Army that is making miniscule inroads into Russian-held territory.


40 posted on 09/26/2022 6:49:10 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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