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NASA’s $93B Artemis Moon Project Price Tag Is ‘Unsustainable’
Real Clear Policy ^
| September 21, 2022
| Adam Andrzejewski
Posted on 09/24/2022 3:06:14 PM PDT by Reno89519
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As usual, NASA and its contractors have over-engineered this into a financial and technical disaster. Maybe they could hire a team of Russian engineers to simplify and harden this so it becomes feasible and can be accomplished?
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:06:14 PM PDT
by
Reno89519
To: Reno89519
Just contract out to Bezos, Branson or Musk. Give contract to lowest bidder.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:10:36 PM PDT
by
Alas Babylon!
(Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
To: Reno89519
So if my cell phone has more computing power than the Apollo moon shot, you would think they could do this on the cheap.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:11:57 PM PDT
by
Neverlift
(When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
To: Reno89519
We were just talking about things being, “Over engineered”. Look at a new Jeep. It’s basically computerized with probably 5000 feet of wiring in it with so much nonsense added on it’s laughable. And it’s just a Jeep!
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:12:12 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: Reno89519
Musk will do it for 1 tenth the price. But I don’t think he offers the same kick backs that Bowing and Lookeed Martin do.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:12:24 PM PDT
by
JoSixChip
(2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
To: Reno89519
Maybe they could hire a team of Russian engineers to simplify and harden this so it becomes feasible and can be accomplished? Just hire Elon Musk, and give him a bonus of half of every billion he saves off the projected cost.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:12:31 PM PDT
by
marktwain
To: Reno89519
But we have enough money for each and every pet cause, project, and war the establishment wants to fund.
I will fight until I can’t fight anymore, but if this is the path the US ultimately follows I will most certainly be an expat unless I die first.
To: Reno89519
I think the entire Apollo program was something like $20 billion and they started from scratch.
Of course we spend that amount on welfare payments alone every ninety days.
As obscene as the pricetag of the Artemis program is, it is nothing compared to the entitlement state.
To: JoSixChip
Bowing???
Don’t you mean Boeing?
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:14:16 PM PDT
by
Reily
To: Reily
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:15:30 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: Reno89519
“NASA’s $93B Artemis Moon Project Price Tag Is ‘Unsustainable’”
Take that, China !!!! (and Russia).
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:16:44 PM PDT
by
BobL
(By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 43 degrees)
To: JoSixChip
Agreed.
But even without the kick backs, NASA and Boeing have no incentive to do it cheaper.
To: Reno89519
Maybe they could hire a team of Russian engineers to simplify and harden this so it becomes feasible and can be accomplished? Good Lord - the only thing that Russian engineers have done lately in space is deliver ISS modules that are so defective that they put the whole station at risk.
NASA incompetent engineers > Russian incompetent engineers.
To: JoSixChip
Musk is single hand-idly building the space travel equivalent of the “Trans-Continental Railroad”.
To: Reno89519; Joe Brower; CodeToad; ComputerGuy; cranked; BobL; Lurker
Can they fill Artemis with fuel without it leaking like a sieve, portending disaster?
For the record, from a boomer who watched it all from Gemini on, NASA put Saturn Vs up (with living astronauts on top) in the 1960s, and sent them to the moon.
Using less computing power than is in your coffee maker. Mostly using slide rules. This was more than half a century ago.
In 1973, we were all sure we'd be on Mars by 2001. Like the book and movie by A.C. Clarke. We were sure of this. This was the trajectory of America, seen from the early 1970s. JFK said, "Let's go to the moon," and we did.
SO WHAT CHANGED?"
Just scratching my head.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:23:07 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Reno89519
93 billion? For a Moon project?
Outrageous. It’s only 93 *million* to get to the Sun.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:28:35 PM PDT
by
Ezekiel
(🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man.)
To: Reno89519
Average Americans are not "excited" to see their money blasted into space, never to be seen again …
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:29:15 PM PDT
by
Governor Dinwiddie
(LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
To: Reno89519
Just drop Artemis and use SpaceX Super Heavy and Starship, which are much more powerful and vastly cheaper.
To: Travis McGee
And that room today would be filled with every variation of woke possible and zero-percent of the brainpower delivered years ago.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:30:45 PM PDT
by
Reno89519
(FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
To: Governor Dinwiddie
It’s about the only positive thing going on. Same as the late 60s with Apollo.
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posted on
09/24/2022 3:30:54 PM PDT
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Outflow
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