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Will Ukraine risk a major counteroffensive?
Hotair ^ | 08/26/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 08/26/2022 8:03:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/26/2022 8:03:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“Importantly, and unlike the Red Army in 1943, Russian forces at present also enjoy virtual total air superiority. Under these circumstances, a significant massing of forces by the Ukrainians for a breakthrough offensive would be a fool’s errand.”


2 posted on 08/26/2022 8:10:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another ‘Million Man March’, I presume. LOL.


3 posted on 08/26/2022 8:11:57 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: kiryandil
Is this what total air superiority looks like:

Russia failed to remove Ukraine's SAM capabilities and as a result have never been able to sustain operations over the battlefield.
4 posted on 08/26/2022 8:28:03 PM PDT by Renfrew
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Putin’s army, routed by your anecdote, is fleeing in beaten disarray westward towards Nikolaev and Artemivsk [Bakhmut], while the fresh formations of the AFU advance relentlessly to the Dnepr and to Odessa.


5 posted on 08/26/2022 8:34:10 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Liberal World Order has been badgering the Ukraine for months to launch an offensive.

And why not? It isn’t sons and nephews of the Davos glitteratti who will be dying in the mud of the Donbas.


6 posted on 08/26/2022 8:43:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know that Ukraine needs to mount a major offensive. The lines are static now, and Ukraine has been using the new toys supplied by the West to attack Russian fuel and arms depots, bridges, and other choice targets. A Ukrainian advance on the West Bank of the Dneiper is likely now that the bridges have been dropped, but even that may be gradual. The longer the war grinds on, the less support it will have at home, and that could cause regime change as in 1917.


7 posted on 08/26/2022 9:05:00 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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If only the Ukrainians had an Air Force left......

“Without a credible air capability, Ukraine is incapable of launching any kind of ground offensive to oust Russians from Kherson or any other piece of territory controlled by Russia. If Ukraine is able to cobble together a regiment or two, supported by a tank battalion, the Ukrainian force will run into a wall of fire from Russian artillery, drones, missiles, helicopters and jet fighters. That is a suicide mission and I cannot understand why many of the military pundits populating the U.S. airwaves are afraid to acknowledge this reality. It cannot be ignorance. There is too much information on the internet that contradicts the flood of propaganda from western media and government sources insisting that Russia is stalled or losing. It is not.

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These guys and gals have one job–persuade the American people that they should continue to support sending billions of dollars in military gear and financial aid to Ukraine. Once the American people wake up and realize this is now a fool’s errand, the bamboozle will be over. But not completely. The propaganda campaign has poisoned future prospects for normal relations with Russia. That is dangerous. Not even during the darkest days of the Cold War did the United States try to isolate Russia and refuse to engage on the diplomatic level. A return to diplomacy appears as likely as a Ukrainian offensive to retake Crimea. It is not in the cards.”

‘Combined Arms - A Look at Russian Air Ops in Donbass’
https://sonar21.com/combined-arms-a-look-at-russian-air-ops-in-the-donbas/


8 posted on 08/26/2022 9:08:10 PM PDT by cranked
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To: SeekAndFind

The more the media pushes the idea of a Ukrainian counter offensive the less likely I think it is to happen.


9 posted on 08/26/2022 9:16:55 PM PDT by jdsteel (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: Renfrew

Careless cockpit smoking.


10 posted on 08/26/2022 9:17:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: cranked

“wall of fire from Russian artillery, drones, missiles, helicopters and jet fighters. “

So where are those Russian drones, helicopters and jet fighters? How come they aren’t currently in the fight?

When America goes to war we launch hundreds of sorties per day. The Russian air force has been a fringe player in this operation.

The problem is that Russia’s 40 year old aircraft have no protection against even Ukraine’s mediocre SAM defenses. Every time Russian planes overfly Ukrainian territory a few of them don’t come back.

Ukraine’s airforce is stuck on the ground for similar reasons and that has turned this into a WWI style war of artillery and infantry.


11 posted on 08/26/2022 10:00:33 PM PDT by Renfrew
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It’s apparent you did not bother to even look at the link I provided that contained a video showing a series of Russian combat flights over the Donbass?

And despite your stubborn belief and others that the Ukrainian air force is “stuck on the ground,” to the contrary, the Ukrainian air force has pretty much been decimated. The Ghost of Kyiv no longer exists.


12 posted on 08/26/2022 10:05:08 PM PDT by cranked
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To: SeekAndFind

Podolyak seems to be unaware of how slowly that $3 billion Defense package is going to dribble in. It’s gonna be like an old guy with an enlarged prostate when he wakes up hurtin’ in the morning...

Euro NATO contributions to the Ukes are generally even worse in this regard.

So far, Ukraine has received 16 HIMARS launchers. 16 isn’t enough to do squat over an area like this conflict. The Poles seem to have figured this out. They just ordered 500. The Poles also have ordered 366 Abrams M1 tanks (250 will be the latest variant) and 1000(!) high end ($8.5 million each) K2 tanks from South Korea. THAT is the sort of level of weaponry Ukraine needs, and across the board.


13 posted on 08/26/2022 10:05:28 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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Ukraine has been loudly talking for weeks about a major offensive against Kherson.

That makes an attack in that direction the least likely thing the Ukrainians attempt.


14 posted on 08/26/2022 10:05:35 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: SeekAndFind

Steiner is going to lead the offensive


15 posted on 08/26/2022 10:10:39 PM PDT by LukeL
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16 posted on 08/26/2022 10:12:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: cranked

A handful of flights is not air superiority. Look at our wars. No enemy of the USA can openly move about in daylight because we can destroy them from the air.

Ukraine has trains filled with artillery shells rumbling towards the front lines every day. Russia has no way of hitting targets like that currently.


17 posted on 08/26/2022 10:34:05 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

Do you suppose, that in a few weeks, they can have that aircraft ready to fly again? 🤪😝


18 posted on 08/26/2022 10:35:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: kiryandil
Putin’s army, routed by your anecdote,

Ukraine's army, routed by literally tens of thousands of retarded Putinist bots online saying nonsense like the below, and they're STILL making them--through bots like you--on this forum:


19 posted on 08/26/2022 10:36:44 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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What I’m hearing is that Ukraine is waiting on enough weapons to ensure the success of the counter offensive.
In the meantime if Ukraine can disrupt supply lines, cut bridges and destroy headquarters, so much the better.

The west has been too slow at providing the weapons.

Even the $3 billion Biden just announced, is part of the $40 billion that Congress approved back in March. But it won’t arrive for months, because most of it is new orders from factories as opposed to shipping existing weapons.

That’s how Biden is earning the Moscow mayor’s bribes and the Russian leaning Oligarch of Burisma’s bribes. They are slow walking aid, while publicizing every dime, and trying to still appear to be the leader of the West.


20 posted on 08/26/2022 10:39:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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