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Everything we accuse Russia and Putin of is actually true of Ukraine and Zelensky

God damn the neocons here for claiming there is anything resembling a democracy or a free country in Ukraine.

The same thing would be happening here if Biden and the neocons had the power.

1 posted on 07/26/2022 8:39:28 AM PDT by Kazan
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Not knowing too much previously, I used to wish Ukraine’s Government the best, albeit without American involvement.

Over time, they have made me into an opponent.

They had better pray to God their neocon paymasters can carry on, because they are rapidly loosing friends outside of the DC Beltway.


30 posted on 07/26/2022 9:36:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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Smearing Gabbard as a Russian propagandist sounds awful similar to Hillary Clinton smearing her as a Russian agent. Smells like a Victoria Nuland operation.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/


32 posted on 07/26/2022 9:38:11 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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The List
https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/
Click on the top link on the page for the complete list.


37 posted on 07/26/2022 9:47:40 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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Ukrainian Ministry of Truth.
‘Democracy in action’....lulz.

Now I know which Ministry of Truth Speedy, Marcus, PIF, etc. originate from.......


38 posted on 07/26/2022 9:55:05 AM PDT by cranked
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Rumor is they are using ZEEPER volunteers to compile the list...


39 posted on 07/26/2022 9:56:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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The list was compiled by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, founded in 2021 by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky

Ah, those that don't support funding Zelensky are on the enemies list.

42 posted on 07/26/2022 10:06:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“Everything we accuse Russia and Putin of is actually true of Ukraine and Zelensky”

Actually not. Zelensky didn’t murder people by blowing up apartment buildings, but Putin did. Zelensky didn’t murder opponents with radioactive polonium, Putin did. Zelensky didn’t invade Russia, Putin invaded Ukraine. You Putin fans have allied yourself with a mass-murdering devil.


49 posted on 07/26/2022 10:36:40 AM PDT by devere
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Tulsi, and Rand are just fine in my book. Must not be towing the company line.


51 posted on 07/26/2022 10:38:45 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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Biden has lost the Ukraine message and the Deep State has re-engaged the war with those who oppose them.


53 posted on 07/26/2022 10:41:57 AM PDT by Zathras
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I agree.


54 posted on 07/26/2022 10:44:22 AM PDT by apocalypto
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All I know is, I’ve seen a ton of Ukrainian propaganda, and hardly any Russian. One is way more omnipresent in the West, parroted by our mainstream press. The other is not.

All we get is laughable stories about the “Ghost of Kyiv” and sunny tales of victory for the glorious Ukrainian army.


56 posted on 07/26/2022 10:45:31 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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“Everything we accuse Russia and Putin of is actually true of Ukraine and Zelensky”

Actually not. Zelensky didn’t murder people by blowing up apartment buildings, but Putin did. Zelensky didn’t murder opponents with radioactive polonium, Putin did. Zelensky didn’t invade Russia, Putin invaded Ukraine. You Putin fans have allied yourself with a mass-murdering devil.


59 posted on 07/26/2022 10:54:18 AM PDT by devere
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“Everything we accuse Russia and Putin of is actually true of Ukraine and Zelensky...”

What possible first hand evidence do you have to back that ignorant claim up with?? Maybe 5 years ago your ignorant statement would carry some truth, but not today.

LOL! It is YOU who are spreading lies and disinformation about Zelenksy and Ukraine. I can see why Kiev has put certain propagandists on their disinformation source list. They’ve been corrupted by the Kremlin and separatists disinformation same as you. Politicians are just as easily persuaded or take information on face value. They believe lies, rumor, hearsay and falsehoods spread by uncorroborated information. No research to corroborate the information or care to verify source or the actual level of source integrity. They just go with claimed/asserted facts… and the truth be damned.

Though corruptions exists in Ukraine, including traitors. They have a boat-load of Russian/Putin sympathizers, agitators and pro-separatists...

The same subversives and depraved enclave of corruption and anti-American subversives you’ll find here in the USA. Same revolutionary types, same militant slime exists in Ukraine. The anti-American pro-Russian Zelensky and ethnic Ukraine haters are among Zelensky’s administration in Ukraine. And you will find those same types here in the USA, unless you’ve been living under a rock. In USA we have pro-Marxists, a hate filled anti-conservative DNC, Trump hating journalists and journalism coordinating the disinformation campaigns to derail the opposition of progressives/Marxists in DC and state houses.. In the USA... we definitely have Game-boy Putin fanboys, hard-core Communists and NAZI’s that exist; as well as pro-Cuban/Castro and Che Guevara lefty Yahoos; that stand with the pro-Marxist fascist totalitarian DNC party and all of its political corruption.

So don’t rag on Ukraine and Zelensky with an inculpable attitude like any virtue on-high leftist hypocrite does that projects from their own corrupt cesspool of traitors, political malfeasance and pro-Marxist journalist propaganda and disinformation hacks.

Who are you to judge Ukraine and Zelensky? What veracity of information supports your judgement?? You ever been to Ukraine, been among and conversed with its population and electorate that elected Zelensky? Ever shook hands with the guy, met his wife and family or have personal experience under his command and control? Have you had dinner with Zelensky, and have intimate knowledge of his character, beliefs, virtues and faith? Have you talked and learned from any accredited citizen of Ukraine that supports Zelensky and knows him personally?? Lol! Of course not!

Have you ONCE taken a critical look?? But, of course you have! You googled it! You know NOTHING but what you choose to look at and validate your negative bias you been brainwashed to believe about Zelensky and Ukraine.

You and like attitudes are no different than Nazis hating on Jews just because you are told they are are Jews. The propaganda mob said hate Jews, so you go along and hate them as well, and anyone who associates with them. Hate AZOV, Zelensky and anyone who supports them.

Did you know that 94% of Ukraine electorate support Zelensky according to latest IRI poll.

You know nothing of Ukraine internals today, or Zelensky, or his family or his character! Only what you are fed by propaganda zombies that manipulate and project their own hypocrisy and pass it around the internet and have it published by disinformation journalists and separatist websites that have their heads up Putin’s rear and throw kisses at the oh-so oppressed revolutionaries in the Ukraine Donbas always calling them freedom fighters and revolutionaries against a fascist NAZI run central state, Ukraine. Too funny.

All the same projection BS flavors the left and the DNC serve up. By calling the conservatives and Trump supporters NAZI’s, fascists, anti-democracy and haters of the constitution! And you fell for the Ukraine disinformation hacks that are in bed with the DNC and corrupt RINO’s. LOL! On one hand they paint Zelensky and Ukraine as a fledgling Democracy that needs USA support... but on the other hand, they hope Zelensky clams up and won’t open Pandora’s box that will expose a multinational criminal ring that used Ukraine as a laundry-mat to wash money through and extort billions from.

Biden and the Democrats want to appease Zelensky. If he doesn’t play ball with the DC/Globalist money-grubbers, they will off him and put in their own puppet, same as what Putin wants to do. To control Ukraine as a vassal/client state.

Do your homework. Your negative opinion on Ukraine and Zelesnky is formed from knee-jerk belief taken from group-think and mob mentality lies, cut/paste disinformation and false witness talking points. You failed to do your own critical thinking and objective analysis. You’re a useful idiot of the disinformation campaign.


62 posted on 07/26/2022 11:21:16 AM PDT by Bellagio
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Wow…the Zelensky Fan Club sure gets mad when you don’t show the proper worship for their idol.

They’re spitting and hissing all over this thread. 😂


64 posted on 07/26/2022 11:25:24 AM PDT by Allegra
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This Ukraine is now a Soros/Schwab/Satanist enterprise. It deserves destruction.


65 posted on 07/26/2022 11:46:59 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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Badge of honor to be given that designation by a deeply corrupt, globalist-controlled, sex-trafficking state.


66 posted on 07/26/2022 12:15:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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Sounds like they’re taking orders from Biden.


77 posted on 07/26/2022 12:25:20 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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Eff Ukraine and Zelensky.


83 posted on 07/26/2022 12:37:28 PM PDT by Irenic
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100%


84 posted on 07/26/2022 1:13:31 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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Ukraine is in the top 5 corrupt countries. If Biden wasn’t sending all this money would Zelinsky rat him and his son out on corruption.


86 posted on 07/26/2022 1:25:49 PM PDT by jersey117
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