Posted on 05/27/2022 6:32:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws
“I’m confident that somewhere in America, fire/emt and police personnel enter situations where instant death is a real possibility...on a routine basis.”
Correct. Usually large departments with extensive training to minimize, as much as is possible, the danger of instant death. Uvalde is a tiny department with many officers inexperienced in such scenarios.
“Adapt, improvise and overcome.”
Yes, and it helps to have training to know how to do so.
They didn't need "ballistic shields," they needed "ballistic testicles.
What the point of all the active shooter training and body armor if all the cops are going to do is “secure the scene” stop other people desperately willing to do their job for them?
If they aren’t farm kids, then I’d agree. Comes naturally to country kids who get responsibility at a young age.
There was a shooting in Oregon at a community college. (Roseburg, 2015) A young military vet (kicked out of the army for smoking pot) blocked his classroom door with his body. The shooter shot him 7 times but he didn’t get in the room where there were more students.
Right at that time two detectives disregarding the rules drove up close to the building and got out without getting their vests or rifles before getting into the active zone.
The shooter saw them and a gunfight ensued with the detectives firing their pistols, and injured the shooter with one round. The shooter sat down on the floor, put his gun to his head and killed himself.
The Army vet hero, Chris Mintz, survived and fully recovered. Physically that is. Emotionally I’m not sure. I could only find an article a year after the shooting, and it said he visits the school often and thinks about his friends (10 of them) that died.
I couldn’t find anything more about him in more recent years. I hope he is doing well.
Oh - the shooter killed himself 8 minutes after the first 9-11 call was made. The two detectives (one car) were nearby. As they were driving in they figured they would be the first to arrive and they both agreed they were going to forego the SOP and they would just charge in.
not only did the border agents not have shields, per a report I listened to, the one border agent had to borrow the shotgun from the barber shop he was at....he rushed to the school...
Yes...The situation overwhelmed them; and their leadership was not up to the challenge of inspiring them to go above and beyond, in a desperate situation.
Absolutely...Without inspiring leadership, no amount of simulation and training can prepare a team to prevail in hostilities under dire circumstances.
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