Posted on 04/08/2022 11:20:16 AM PDT by nuconvert
**So it appears Moscow is alleging another false flag, similar to the recent back-and-forth between Russia and the West surrounding the events at Bucha.**
German born Leninist Klause Schwabs boy - FSB Putin would never lie or mislead from his Kremlin.
I HEARD IT FROM CREDIBLE SOURCES, and we all know truth is determined by consensus!
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11 JAN 2022
Russian Ambassador to UK Andrey Kelin // Russian TASS
Moscow has No Plan to Invade Ukraine -
“Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said they were unsubstantiated escalation and that Russia doesn’t threaten anyone.”
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20 JAN 2022
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov // Moscow
Elana Teslova
MOSCOW
“Russia has no intentions of invading Ukraine, even if talks on security guarantees with the US and NATO fail, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said Wednesday.
Speaking at a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club in Moscow, Ryabkov stressed that there is no risk of a large-scale war in Europe and accused the US of intentionally spreading misinformation that Russia is preparing to invade Ukraine.
“I do believe that there is no risk for a large-scale war to start to unfold in Europe or elsewhere.
We do not want and will not take any action of an aggressive character. We will not attack, strike, ‘invade’ — whatever — Ukraine,” he said.”
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27 JAN 2022
Moscow Ambassador to EU
No Invasion Plans // euro news
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9 FEB 2022
Harun Yilmaz / Al Jazeera
No Russia Will Not Invade Ukraine
“A full-scale war in Ukraine does not really fit into how the Kremlin has used hard power in its geopolitical games. The examples of Georgia, Syria, Libya, and (so far) Ukraine, show that it pursues a cost-efficient policy.”
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16 FEB 2022
Why Putin Won’t Invade Ukraine
Harman Ollman (many good points)
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/why-putin-wont-invade-ukraine/
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17 FEB 2022
Vladimir Kuznetsov / Bloomberg
Russia Denies UA Invasion Plan
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20 FEB 2022
Russian Ambassador to US
Anatoly Antonov // thehill.com
“No invasion, No Plan”
I don’t trust a damn thing reported in the media, or stated by the Biden administration or Pentagon. They have no credibility. I’m not saying this happened or not. But I do know the first causality of war is truth.
Ukraine continues its civil war, now pinning its victims on Russia. The ugliest thing is that the Western governments are fully aware and complicit in it.
“Yes, it was a Ukrainian missile indeed.”
The Russians still have the missile system in question held in reserve.
I cannot speak for others but I am my own independent thinker. Further I don’t need to push a narrative of somebody elses. I will draw my own conclusions as can and does many here on FR. Though I may agrer at times with others that doesn’t mean I or anyone else is tied to anothers opinions.
With the NAto nations shipping everytype of armament etc. into Ukraine - and vasts amounts left in the field - there’s no tlling who shot the missile unless you wer there - and even those reports gt twisted.
I just think it’s ridiculous trying to figure out this ground war with so many different groups in the field. There’s a reason it’s called ‘The fog of war”....
According to France 24, Russia’s Defense Ministry originally rather routinely announced in the morning that they’d struck the train stations attempting to hit Ukrainian military equipment within. Then when reports of large civilian casualties came in, the Russians started making blanket denials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELGTttBfQ_Y
Now, France 24 is a “Western” source, so, I’m not gonna say “well there’s the proof”, because we have too many anti-Western posters here who’ll deride it as a source. But... that original statement by Russia’s Defense Ministry should be archived SOMEWHERE. I’m sure as hell not going to risk going on their site. The statement might be scrubbed anyway. I don’t think I have good enough security on this computer to go poking around too far, but, judging by the sources caww uses, she surely must (or is very foolish), and I’m sure some others must too.
So, everybody: There’s a lead. Go for it. I’ll make some popcorn. :-)
Yeah, sometimes I shake my head. For example (just one!)
There’s a half-Britannica size set of info. on FR laying out simple to very detailed arguments and explanations that my wife and I must by now have dozens of friends and other contacts dead from COVID Vax shots.
Except none are. :-)
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