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Russia’s war in Ukraine is far from over
Task and Purpose ^ | Published Mar 26, 2022 2:17 PM | Andrew Milburn

Posted on 03/26/2022 3:20:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

“A warrior’s chief concern is personal survival. Soldiers fight for causes. Warriors fight for personal aggrandizement.”

I could cite numerous examples to the contrary.

But, on a basic level: A Comanche brave was a warrior, and sought personal glory (aggrandizement), as it was his culture. But he didn’t give a shit about personal survival, and would fight like hell to protect his family (cause).


41 posted on 03/26/2022 6:40:04 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: skeeter
Putin's trying to acquire by threats what he can't achieve by yet another of his wars of aggression. Biden and Putin are indeed on the same side, Biden having worked for years to undermine Ukraine, just like Putin has. So far, Putin's managed to destroy property, destroy and lose equipment, kill thousands of people, send thousands of his stooges to their deaths and disfigurement, and crush the Russian economy. His war turned rapidly into just another Russian fiasco, and Ukrainians aren't buying his Russian BS.

42 posted on 03/26/2022 6:46:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Zhang Fei
“That's the difference between warriors and soldiers - warriors are ultimately loyal only to themselves, whereas soldiers are loyal to someone else or some cause.”

Warriors throughout history would disagree with you. Leonidas and the Spartans at Thermopylae were certainly warriors; yet, they died for Sparta: "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by; that here, obedient to their laws, we lie." History is replete with examples of soldiers having loyalty only to themselves, and whose cause is often just his own survival. That is not at all to demean soldiers. I am merely pointing out that you can't pigeon-hole warriors and soldiers into two restricted categories: There are many exceptions, and many overlaps.

43 posted on 03/26/2022 6:51:29 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s a real stretch.


44 posted on 03/26/2022 7:55:41 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Godebert

So, these are the guys who are winning? (according to MSM, including FOX.)


45 posted on 03/26/2022 7:59:08 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: ought-six
It’s just not part of the Russian DNA, as it has been bred out of them over centuries of being told and shown they are noting but an expendable commodity to their rulers. Russians tend to see themselves not as individuals, but as a collective, exploitable and expendable.

Cannon fodder. Quantity has a quality of its own. But communism has destroyed the Russian soul. So they are not longer reproducing. So they no longer have the cannon fodder advantage that they've used to subjugate their rivals.

46 posted on 03/26/2022 8:14:36 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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“Cannon fodder. Quantity has a quality of its own. But communism has destroyed the Russian soul. So they are not longer reproducing. So they no longer have the cannon fodder advantage that they’ve used to subjugate their rivals.”

Yup.


47 posted on 03/27/2022 7:15:51 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

Alex Christoforou at about the nine minute mark of this video breaks down how ridiculous the NATO numbers are and amount to the Ukrainian military killing a higher percentage of Russians in 28 days than the Nazi military did in 41 days in the same area in WWII:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWSdfUb7omQ

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/03/i-
 

In recent years, it's hard to think of too many instances of high intensity warfare involving fairly well-armed adversaries - including one of the superpowers - that was stalled the way the Russian invasion is. For a few weeks, the Tet Offensive was one of them. It is a bit long in the tooth, but the closest thing I can think off. During a two-month stretch, the US and South Vietnam lost an average of 175 KIA/MIA a day, combined, compared to the NVA/Vietcong's 750 dead a day. Note that the US and South Vietnam were defending, and the NVA/Vietcong were attacking. The US had air supremacy and fire superiority, and the NVA/Vietcong lacked the expensive man-portable PGM's, effective from a mile away, with which the Ukrainians have been supplied.

The NVA/Vietcong had the benefit of $3.6b in current dollars of equipment per year in Russian aid.

Under the rule of Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet Union initially supported North Vietnam out of “fraternal solidarity”. However, as the war escalated, Khrushchev urged the North Vietnamese leadership to give up the quest of liberating South Vietnam. He continued by rejecting an offer of assistance made by the North Vietnamese government, and instead told them to enter negotiations in the United Nations Security Council.[90] After Khrushchev’s ousting, Brezhnev resumed aiding the communist resistance in Vietnam. In February 1965, Premier Kosygin visited Hanoi with a dozen Soviet air force generals and economic experts.[91] Over the course of the war, Brezhnev’s regime would ultimately ship $450 million worth of arms annually to North Vietnam.[92]

They also received substantial amounts of Chinese weaponry and other equipment:
 

Military aid given to North Vietnam by China[3]: 379 

YearGunsArtillery piecesBulletsArtillery shellsRadio transmittersTelephonesTanksPlanesAutomobiles
196480,5001,20525,240,000335,0004262,941161825
1965220,7674,439114,010,0001,800,0002,7799,502?2114
1966141,5313,362178,120,0001,066,0001,5682,235??96
1967146,6003,984147,000,0001,363,0002,4642,2892670435
1968219,8997,087247,920,0002,082,0001,8543,31318?454
1969139,9003,906119,117,0001,357,0002,2103,453??162
1970101,8002,21229,010,000397,0009501,600???
1971143,1007,89857,190,0001,899,0002,4644,4248044,011
1972189,0009,23840,000,0002,210,0004,3705,905220148,758
1973233,5009,91240,000,0002,210,0004,3356,447120361,210
1974164,5006,40630,000,0001,390,0005,1484,66380?506
1975141,8004,88020,600,000965,0002,2402,150?20?
Total1,922,89764,5291,048,207,00017,074,00030,80848,92256016415,771

48 posted on 03/27/2022 10:02:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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