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Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China’s Choice
US-China Perception Monitor ^ | March 12, 2022 | Hu Wei

Posted on 03/13/2022 7:38:42 AM PDT by untenured

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At least some of the advice Xi Jinping is getting.
1 posted on 03/13/2022 7:38:42 AM PDT by untenured
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The people of Taiwan owe the Ukrainians a great debt. Comrade Xi is seeing the difficulty that the Russians are having, the losses they are taking, the political and economic costs and is taking pause in any decision to attack Taiwan. If the people of Taiwan resist, there is no guarantee that his largely untested, combat inexperienced army of “one child” soldiers and all his locally produced ships, planes and weaponry would be successful. If they fail, the consequences for Xi, his family and supporters will be extremely unpleasant.


2 posted on 03/13/2022 7:46:43 AM PDT by allendale
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To: untenured

A very pro-Western take.

Sure, the US is reinforcing positions within the West, but that is at the expense of a significantly weakened Europe, meaning the West in general weakened.

I have no idea what Chinese isolation they are talking about. The weakened West is a great opportunity for China to establish itself as a top dog.

The loss of Russian resources for the West is also an opportunity for China.


3 posted on 03/13/2022 7:47:30 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: untenured

Sound advice. Putin is already becoming the despised tyrant and I doubt aching wants to join them. The question “Who buys our stuff” is a pretty obvious choice.


4 posted on 03/13/2022 7:55:29 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: NorseViking

The only weakness in the West is energy, because they get it from a dictator from Russia.

It’s a very temporary weakness, whereas, long term, NATO will likely add Sweden and Finland. Germany, Denmark, Poland and others have set targets of doubling military spending. The US is talking about forward deployments of 3 Armored Combat Brigades in Eastern and Central Europe.

Putin has layed an egg with this stupid invasion.


5 posted on 03/13/2022 7:55:50 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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Yep, looming hyperinflation and growing defense spending, whereas food and energy are coming from Russia and finished goods from China. What could go wrong?


6 posted on 03/13/2022 7:58:54 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I think like Stalin did in WW2 waiting on the other side of the river while Hitler levels Poland and then goes in, he had no love for Poland, seems like The biden/Obama nation building client state crime syndicate is doing to the Ukraine and zelynski. Biden warned no money until you fire prosecutor going after hunter, Trump asked z to look into corruption and the bidens which includes years of Obama crime with the Clintons and others. So it looks like Biden is giving z and the Ukraine lip service while allowing Russia to lay waste


7 posted on 03/13/2022 8:00:24 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: allendale

On the contrary - the Chinese may look and see the absolute limits of Western power - and reason that attacking Taiwan will provoke even less of a response today than it would have only months ago. The rest of the world cannot afford to sanction two superpowers at the same time. If the Chinese moved against the island today, outside of a limited military response, we couldn’t afford to do much.


8 posted on 03/13/2022 8:04:01 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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Russia needs European markets, which is why they won’t cut the energy to the Euros, or they can sell it cheap to China, lol.

China needs the US consumer market or they go to depression.

Russia, should go ahead and give up on Europe and sell it elsewhere, since Euros are going in that direction and planning for the Russian de link.


9 posted on 03/13/2022 8:05:06 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: allendale

Excellent! A somewhat cold assessment of the geopolitical realities of the situation. This could have been written one month ago, one or ten years ago, before word one of anyone’s disinfo. I think the generational Cold War Eastern European arms race has already started. Xi will finance Russia at the price of client state status. Putin will will occupy the US’s attention and General Dynamics will sell 5000 tanks and off we go again.


10 posted on 03/13/2022 8:06:05 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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Why shouldn’t Russia sell its energy to China? Trade interdependence between the US and China is asymmetrical. China can live without, the US won’t. Europe is uncompetitive without Russian energy, fertilizers and food. It may be fixed in the long run or not. It can’t be fixed short enough not to fall into economic irrelevance though.


11 posted on 03/13/2022 8:13:13 AM PDT by NorseViking
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Like most Russians, you got it wrong again. It is China that depends on selling its cheap shit to the US. China would go into major econ depression without the huge US consumer market.

Yes, the Euros are dependent on Russian energy. Within 3 weeks of the invasion by Russia, they had a meeting to plan weaning themselves off of Russia.

You misunderstood me, I believe Russia should sell their energy to China, the US connection is dead and the Euro connection will be dead in 5-7 years.


12 posted on 03/13/2022 8:20:43 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: rbmillerjr

And your opinion of the US-Chinese trade is based on what?:)


13 posted on 03/13/2022 8:22:18 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: untenured

Who is Hu Wei? I can’t find anything about him.


14 posted on 03/13/2022 8:40:13 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: NorseViking

Do you think only Chinese slave labor can make cell phones and televisions? Cheap labor is all over the world. It will just shift to countries other than China. We made it just fine without Chinese goods before the 1980’s.


15 posted on 03/13/2022 8:44:09 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: untenured

Don’t be sure Xi reads this. While the source is made to look Chinese, it is actually

” The website is a not-for-profit operated by the China Focus of the Carter Center... “


16 posted on 03/13/2022 8:51:08 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: Oklahoma

LOL. Where are the moves to fix it? If you think the industry can be built from scratch in a day, then you are wrong.


17 posted on 03/13/2022 8:51:26 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: FarCenter

US think tank (Carter’s Center)


18 posted on 03/13/2022 8:52:00 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr

Is that James Earl “Jimmy” Carter?


19 posted on 03/13/2022 8:52:21 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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LOL. Where are the moves to fix it? If you think the industry can be built from scratch in a day, then you are wrong.

Short sighted pimples like you are a real threat to all of us. We know it takes time to rebuild USA's manufacturing infrastructure. It tool Free Traitors™ like you 3 decades to tear it all down. But it's an economic opportunity and not a bad thing you myopic fool.

20 posted on 03/13/2022 8:54:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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