Top Russian biologist turns on Putin's propaganda insisting claims of US-funded Ukrainian biowarfare labs researching Black Death, anthrax and cholera are 'pure lies' and 'absurd fakes'

Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 12 Mar 2022 | Will Steward and Lizzie May

[BobL]

“Putin posed quite a threat to Ukraine.”

Russia always has, always will.

[BobL]

“That’s why Ukrainians are dying because Russians are killing them.”

Happens in war.

“Propaganda makes your brain fuzzy.”

Glad the West never engages in propaganda, otherwise I’d believe that there was widespread cheating in the 2020 election.

[Williams]

Your answers have nothing to do with the subject.

Happens in war? That’s meaningless.

Others engaged in propaganda. So?

You evaded discussing reality. That Ukraine was no threat (and Putin knew that) and the war is unjust, among other things.

And that you are falling for Russian propaganda. Has nothing to do with whether propaganda is done by others.

And frankly the war has nothing to do (directly) with ejection fraud. Though it results in part from having a terrible president.

Sometimes a war by Putin is just a war by Putin, and not a globalist conspiracy.

[kiryandil]

But the denial this morning -‘Putin is a liar. He always lies’ came from so many sources that it sounded like Leftie propaganda.

Does this sound familiar?:

But the denial this morning -‘Trump is a liar. He always lies’ came from so many sources that it sounded like Leftie propaganda.

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You know, I've been on here struggling against the Schwab WEF propaganda [since it flipped from Canadian Truckers Bad to Russian Man Bad], but I see where this thing is going.

We're going to end up with another Free Republic bloodbath/purge, and we're going to lose good freepers on both sides, and donations that should be keeping this place running.

I think that I'm just going to throttle back posting on this cr@p, no matter how outrageous the pro-Ukraine agitprop gets.

I have other interests on here that I can tend to. The Left is rubbing its hands over this FR schism like Pelosi at the State of the Huggies.

[LouieFisk]

Me, I don’t worked up. Just opinions - and you the saying about that.

For me, all the propaganda BS is pretty amazing this time.

Always been but it’s never been so deep in the US with the media just mindlessly repeating government-written talking points. Astounding depth of utter crap.

The Nixon admin wasn’t exactly supportive of the Pentagon Papers being released, but it didn’t have total control over the media to stop their publication by the NYT, Wapo and others. The media certainly didn’t feel constrained by the admin.

Some of the stuff is funny in a contradictory way. Russia is both - at the same time - on the verge of being defeated by the Ukraine and on the verge of defeating the Ukrainians.

Reminded me of an interesting audio recording of JFK talking to the two advisors he’d sent to Vietnam to report the situation back to him.

‘President John F. Kennedy asked the two men who came to brief him in September 1962 about the situation in Vietnam. One of them, General Victor Krulak, said the government of South Vietnam had the war under control and that its military would win it (At the time, U.S. combat forces had yet to be deployed to the country.) The other, State Department advisor Joseph Mendenhall disagreed, saying that the situation was uncertain, noting that Vietnamese students were joining the side of the Viet Cong.
JFK asked:
“You both went to the same country?”’
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lesson-from-jfk-how-to-resolve-conflicting-views

[Williams]

Yeah the WEF propaganda. They made up all the lies against this just war.

Not. If you don’t rent to post, don’t.

I’ve read things on here against Ukraine that are absolutely disgusting, delusional and anti American. I’ve lived too long to tolerate America hatred or foolishness about our strategic interests in Europe.

If you take a break spend some time reading about the actual behavior and that by Russia.

Because going on about Klaus Nobody, biolabs and American threats to Russia is not a knowledgeable position.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Always, how about you?

[SoCal Pubbie]

You realize I was mocking the Young Putineers, right? I believe we’re on the same page here.

[kiryandil]

Great JFK anecdote - I've never heard that one.   

For me, all the propaganda BS is pretty amazing this time.

It's unbelievable.

All I know is that we in the West are in grave danger, after the WEF puppets in Canada froze peoples' bank accounts without a by-your-leave, and "with the [Canadian] media just mindlessly repeating government-written talking points", as you wrote.

Check this out [blood attainder, in your face]:

If conservatives can't see the Canadian attainder thingee, and the associated ex-post facto thingee [they froze some young woman's account because she donated before the crackdown], and how that is related to "cancelling Russia", then I'm not going to change their mind about what they're seeing.

All I know is that I'm not leaving assets in the greedy paws of the TechnoDictators.

I'll survive letting the freeper Pooty-haters have their way.

After the dust settles here, they'll be wearing the Clown Shoes.

[kiryandil]

You "win", Williams.

Enjoy your "victory".

Just mind how many freepers you chase off, unless you're going to volunteer to take up the slack.

Don't worry about chasing ME off - it's my 25th anniversary this month, latecomer.   

[SE Mom]

What’s remarkable to me is how many Russians have spoken out against Putin’s war. It’s shocking and refreshing. From other things I’ve read, though, the media there is now tightly controlled- all opposing views have been silenced and most ordinary Russians think there’s a “special operation” to de-nazify Eukraine.

[kiryandil]

If you take a break spend some time reading about the actual behavior and that by Russia.

I have a "passing familiarity" with the history of that area, and with the languages of the region, also.

I'll let you "win", here, too.  

[LouieFisk]

Yeah, that’s the thing. If they’re trying their best to destroy and take down the economy of an entire nation, how does the little guy who just donated to some non-woke cause stand a chance?

And the problem with that kind of warfare against a country you’re not at war with is you better be able to handle getting it back in kind. Grids being shut down alone can bring a nation to it’s knees.

[SE Mom]

*Ukraine

[rrrod]

Yes we are. Salute.

[BobL]

“Sometimes a war by Putin is just a war by Putin, and not a globalist conspiracy.”

I would tend to disagree due to the HUGE amount of stories we were hearing from Ukraine, long before the invasion was being discussed. CLEARLY there were things going on there, and that, perhaps, is the reason the media/Soros/DNC are willing to risk nuclear war to prevent stuff from coming out.

WAY too much risk level for some third-rate country in the middle of nowhere, especially given our history of doing nothing in Africa.

[rrrod]

Sent this by mistake! Sorry.

[David Chase]

I would say I’m stunned if………..

The great Covid/vaccine division never happened. Complete with propaganda, grifters, and conspiracies.

Q never happened……complete with propaganda, grifters, and conspiracies.

So believing Russian propaganda complete with Wild ridiculous conspiracies is only the next natural step.

[delchiante]

You haven’t heard of the SF packaging that were being opened in election counting locations?

Those are directly from China.

Maybe you didn’t hear about the blank ballots

I bet you think Russia hacked the 2016 election Soros buddy

[Deplorable American1776]

I wonder what the Russian equivalent of Arkancide? 🤓