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Russia Threatens To Leave US Astronaut And Abandon Space Station
Nation And Space ^ | 3-12-2022

Posted on 03/12/2022 6:03:31 AM PST by blam

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To: blam

Don’t have to rely on Soviets. That’s the whole point of SpaceX…launch on demand services.


61 posted on 03/12/2022 8:14:36 AM PST by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: lee martell

No, he’s not (a bargaining chip) because short of the next Soyuz going up & ramming the ISS, Vande Hei is not in any danger. SpaceX can surely get a supply run up to the ISS in a couple weeks (and the ISS has reserve supplies anyway), and a crew mission in a month or so. The real question is, if things get tense up there, what to do with the 2 Russian cosmonauts presently on board the ISS, while ensuring no other Russians can board.


62 posted on 03/12/2022 8:18:21 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: blam

Fortunately, we have a brand new rocket. I think it will be the largest in the world...15% more thrust than the Saturn-5.


Maybe so, but Musk’s Starship will have 16 million pounds of thrust, more than twice the Saturn 5’s 7.5 million. And it’s reusable.

On the SLS everything gets thrown away every launch except for the Orion capsule.

That’s why the SLS is projected to cost $2 Billion per launch vs $2 Million for Starship.

One Thousand times less!


63 posted on 03/12/2022 9:01:15 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: blam

"Screw those commie bastards and screw their wussy little space station!"

64 posted on 03/12/2022 9:02:28 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rey

Everyone who thinks that Musk can do it has zero idea what it takes to prepare for a space mission. Add to that, his craft has never flown to that orbit or docked with anything let alone something occupied with people.

WRONG

Crew Dragon has flown several missions and docked to the ISS starting with DEMO -2 in May 2020, AXIOM 1 with 4 private crew members is scheduled to launch end of this month, followed by CREW DRAGON 4 in middle of April

Constraints is preparing the booster and space on launch pad, Musk has two, LC 39 and SLC 40 Number of missions scheduled in next few weeks


65 posted on 03/12/2022 9:08:11 AM PST by njslim
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To: cgbg

How the hell do you negotiate with a party that reassures one day they won’t invade, and the next launches a major invasion? The only possible choice is to chop down, even if it takes a lot of chops, that capability of invasion.

I’d also point out that President Trump quite effectively personally cowed the Taliban, while he was in office. Of course that didn’t hold up once Biden was in.

I do agree on one point though: Russia is going to find out that “you will get what you give”. It will take time, but, circumstance will force stronger leadership in the West. Karma really is a bitch, Mr. Putin.


66 posted on 03/12/2022 9:16:04 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
I do agree on one point though: Russia is going to find out that “you will get what you give”.

You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
Come around, we'll kick your asses
67 posted on 03/12/2022 9:17:21 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Paul R.

“How the hell do you negotiate with a party that reassures one day they won’t invade, and the next launches a major invasion?”

Context is important. Russia had troops mobilized on the border for weeks.

That is when you begin negotiations—before things get out of hand.

Imho Putin invaded because he concluded that the clowns in DC were more interested in name calling, finger pointing and virtue signaling than serious negotiations.


68 posted on 03/12/2022 9:34:03 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: chaosagent

I believe the SRBs are reusable, since they’re the same one used on the shuttle, with 2 extra segments, each.


69 posted on 03/12/2022 10:19:30 AM PST by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: cgbg

“Context” is that Xi asked Putin to wait until after the Olympics. The “negotiations” were a ruse.

Putin invaded because it is part of his oft stated desire / goal, and specifically because he thought: the West in general and the US in particular was politically weak, he could repeat past adventures, and that Ukraine would crumble in a few days.

Well, he was right about one.


70 posted on 03/12/2022 10:57:50 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

The “negotiations” consisted of the US calling Putin names.

That made them a certain “ruse”.


71 posted on 03/12/2022 11:00:51 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: blam

Musk can do it. Once the Russians leave, never allow them back. We can then develop an expansion and make it a gas station for colonizing and mining the moon.

From launching from the moon we have access to the rest of the solar system.


72 posted on 03/12/2022 11:11:06 AM PST by Eastern Shore Virginian (I am 100% certain.........but I may be wrong.)
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To: blam
These are worthless now?


73 posted on 03/12/2022 11:39:01 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Libloather

I would definitely hang on to them. I have a “First Day of Issue” stamp for Apollo 8, and one for Apollo 11, still on their respective envelopes. Got em in the mail back then….🙂


74 posted on 03/12/2022 12:12:08 PM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: blam

Sounds like a job for Mr. Musk.

Paging Elon Musk, please pick up the white courtesy phone.in the lobby.

5.56mm


75 posted on 03/12/2022 12:18:05 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Tenacious 1

no Rogozin did the head of Roscosmos. he is the one who is talking out of his ass, the astro came up on on a soyus ans will return.


76 posted on 03/12/2022 12:51:20 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: rey

spacex has been delivering astros to the ISS for a while now with Crew Dragon. the supply dragon has been going to the station for a long time..


77 posted on 03/12/2022 12:53:22 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: rey

Are you insane? SpaceX has sent four crewed missions too the ISS and just got a contract for 3 more crew-7,8,9 missions too the ISS.

https://www.space.com/spacex-crew-3-dragon-space-station-docking-success

https://www.space.com/nasa-orders-more-spacex-crew-dragon-launches

Musk also sends cargo on the regular to the ISS and has the data to prove that CargoDragon can be used just like Soyuz to boost and station keep for USE as a population module.


78 posted on 03/12/2022 4:11:13 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Nope. Not according to this. One extra segment each.

The major physical difference between the shuttle and SLS boosters is the addition of a fifth propellant segment to the four-segment shuttle booster, allowing NASA’s new launcher to lift more weight than the shuttle. Additionally, the SLS booster will be optimized for a single-use, while the shuttle booster was designed to be reused.


79 posted on 03/12/2022 4:15:04 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: markman46

American broomsticks flying for freedom! SPACEX is sending its fifth crew.mission to the ISS and this one is all private that’s a first for any space agency. It’s balderdash that SPACEX hasn’t sent astronauts to space let alone the ISS they are leading the whole planet in human space flight now not only in tempo but also technology. All but the second stage is reusable and they could for a 1000 kg weight penalty bring those home too they choose not to because it’s cheaper the throw away the second stage than give up 1000_1500kg of revenue generating payloads on every launch they mass produce the second stage Henry Ford style.

Musk is a modernday Edison.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/spacex-launches-48-more-starlink-satellites-on-an-american-broomstick/
“The next SpaceX launch is not a Starlink mission, but a crewed one. Scheduled for launch on March 30, the Axiom-1 mission will be the first all-private flight to the International Space Station (ISS). SpaceX already has quite a bit of experience on the crewed-mission front — it’s already flown four NASA crews to the ISS, plus the Inspiration 4 mission, whose all-civilian crew orbited the Earth in a Crew Dragon capsule for several days.”


80 posted on 03/13/2022 9:44:34 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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