The ‘Mystery Man’ Ray Epps Indeed Has a Proven Link to the FBI

True. But, so what? What is he going to do with that information?

Is he going to subpoena Epps to appear before the Senate and answer questions? Maybe. I won’t hold my breath.

I guess we’ll have to wait for Judicial Watch to get the documents a couple of years from now.

Reviewing Freeper Kevmo links (and others) regarding a citizens arrest.

My guess would be, that there is no point in pursuing a citizens arrest, in a location where:

a) no authorized-by-law, law enforcement agency would take custody, and

b) no authorized-by-law, government-authorized

i) prosecuting attorney, and

ii) judge and jury

will process the charges and case.

Therefore, it seems to me, that federal and/or state criminal-type charges against the person of interest such as any Ray Epps case, would need to be already existing - BEFORE - daring to make a citizens arrest.

A private person who is an American citizen, would need to find, and already have on hand, a good attorney providing good advice on how to proceed, or not, with the citizens arrest in the state where the citizens arrest would take place.

I would expect that good attorney advice, to include prior contact between two parties (a and b, as follows):

a) the private person who is an American citizen and his/her good attorney, and

b) the state police and the county sheriff.

They all meet in the same room and clearly understand all the details. If you do not see that meeting taking place, then do not proceed.

Because, you need to know very well, in advance, where the case would be going - IF the case would proceed.

Given the federal law enforcement experience of the attorney for Ray Epps, all the above details are very likely to have been considered. That attorney for Ray Epps, already knows, that nothing will happen unless the federal government FIRST charges Ray Epps.

Ray Epps goes in peace and should not be bothered. There is no case for making a citizens arrest; and the advice here and the cautions/warnings to stay away from Ray Epps, urged by Freeper unlearner, includes some wisdom.

The likelihood of Ray Epps incriminating himself, by being a defense witness, is not much, IMHO.

So, attorneys for the defense of people who participated in the riot portion and/or occupation within the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, during the protest march of that date, are pretty much stuck with the videos, plus statements of observations, made by other people who were there, in D.C., on that date.

It is a blatant affront to the American public that a man who played a key role in igniting a riot that has been characterized by rabid Democrats as an attack on “democracy” tantamount to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, escapes not only justice, but even escapes criticism in the establishment press.

The American press sucks - that said, this piece is way to long.

Why don’t the muckrakers also ask about John Earle Sullivan aka Jayden X aka Activist John? Why just Epps?

Agent Provocateur, John Earle Sullivan, Arrested, Released without Bail

Article published on AmmoLand, June 25, SIX MONTHS AGO.

Reviewing Freeper Kevmo links (and others) regarding a citizens arrest.
***Well it looks like you at least attempted to be thorough.

My guess would be, that there is no point in pursuing a citizens arrest, in a location where:
***That is because you want a guaranteed WIN. What we learned in the campaign against Hanoi Jane was that just the act itself of arresting the person is where the damage is done, not in the court proceedings afterwards.

a) no authorized-by-law, law enforcement agency would take custody, and
***That can be worked to our advantage because the whole thing will be televised. They’re basically admitting that they won’t do their job.

b) no authorized-by-law, government-authorized
***Has no bearing on whether or not you can citizen-arrest a person.

i) prosecuting attorney, and
***Again, has no bearing. We KNOW that Ray is an FBI informant, but the focus on charging all those other Trumplicans is the whole point. Here is a guy who was ON CAMERA fomenting insurrection but he is uncharged.

ii) judge and jury
***You’re stuck on trying to win when the real damage is done the moment he is citizen-arrested and all the bad publicity he and the FBI will get.

will process the charges and case.
***That’s what we learned with the Hanoi Jane case, that it doesn’t matter what the process and charges are going to be, it only matters that we actually citizen-arrest him and then blare that out to the media.

Therefore, it seems to me, that federal and/or state criminal-type charges against the person of interest such as any Ray Epps case, would need to be already existing -
***Your inference doesn’t even deserve a ‘therefore’. As thorough as you tried to be you didn’t even consider the case that all the political damage is done at the time of arrest, not whether or not you win the case.

BEFORE - daring to make a citizens arrest.
***The guy fomented insurrection on camera. There are folks in jail for more than a year for doing far less. This man deserves to be under a dark cloud of suspicion.

A private person who is an American citizen, would need to find, and already have on hand, a good attorney providing good advice on how to proceed,
***That was what we did with the Hanoi Jane campaign. We count it as a success because she stopped her plans pronto. We could consider it a success in damaging Ray Epps and the FBI as soon as the media reports he is under arrest for fomenting insurrection.

or not, with the citizens arrest in the state where the citizens arrest would take place.
***Yup. A bit of POTO — Pointing Out The Obvious.

I would expect that good attorney advice, to include prior contact between two parties (a and b, as follows):
***Now you’re just going into MEGO mode [Mine Eyes Glaze Over] because you didn’t throw enough detail in your attempt to be thorough so you’re just adding this nonsense.

a) the private person who is an American citizen and his/her good attorney, and
b) the state police and the county sheriff.
***Yeah huh, again more POTO.

They all meet in the same room and clearly understand all the details.
***Sounds like an interesting plan. Your plan is built on trying to win the case. My plan is built on just damaging the opposition.

If you do not see that meeting taking place, then do not proceed.
***That’s because of your initial assumptions. Those are basically invalid because you’re not even trying to just damage the FBI and Ray Epps, you’re trying to knock over all the ducks in a row necessary to win the case.

Because, you need to know very well, in advance, where the case would be going - IF the case would proceed.
***Again, your initial assumptions. Since you didn’t cover the case I keep bringing up, it means you were not all that thorough in your considerations.

Given the federal law enforcement experience of the attorney for Ray Epps, all the above details are very likely to have been considered.
***Let them consider those details. I’m certain Hanoi Jane’s attorney considered her details and the advice her attorneys gave her was that yes, we had the right in America to citizen-arrest her. We have the right to citizen-arrest Ray Epps. We should move on that right.

That attorney for Ray Epps, already knows, that nothing will happen unless the federal government FIRST charges Ray Epps.
***That’s why this plan is good, because the attorney for Epps is likely to be just as much an inside-the-box thinker as your conventional-bound self.

Ray Epps goes in peace and should not be bothered.
***Ray Epps definitely should be bothered.

There is no case for making a citizens arrest;
***There is plenty of case. It’s just that you haven’t considered all the real options available.

and the advice here and the cautions/warnings to stay away from Ray Epps, urged by Freeper unlearner, includes some wisdom.
***Sure there’s wisdom but it doesn’t mean he’s right. This is a cultural cold civil war and Ray is a spy caught behind enemy lines.

The likelihood of Ray Epps incriminating himself,
***It has already happened, right on video.

by being a defense witness, is not much, IMHO.
***You’re way too focused on your own viewpoint. You don’t know how to consider very straightforward casing that renders your viewpoint very much too conventional.

So,
***NO. Not so. “So” is not justified in this case.

attorneys for the defense of people who participated in the riot portion and/or occupation within the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, during the protest march of that date, are pretty much stuck with the videos, plus statements of observations, made by other people who were there, in D.C., on that date.
***Those videos incriminate Ray Epps. They implicate the FBI.

They are operating very intelligently if this is a Reichstag fire. The temptation is to consider them to be very stupid.

READ LATER.

That is because the front men and women are the corrupt and stupid democrat politicians. The deep state may be evil, but it is not made up of morons.