Posted on 01/23/2022 2:45:06 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Why is it our job to keep Putin from grabbing territory unless it is our own? If Europe doesn’t really care why should we?
Clinton’s promises to Ukraine were as good as his promises to that wife of his.
Who got the Soviet nukes and where are they?
If we actually sent all of the mexicans back to mexico, have they been here long enough to count as an invasion if they suddenly showed in in mexico?
Didn’t we take that attitude in the first 2 WW’s, but it came to us anyway?
I agree Europe should defend Europe. I suppose that we could announce that if Ukraine doesn’t hold back Russia, that we won’t defend Germany either. But I think that would just encourage Putin.
Don’t give them anything sophisticated ... the Russians will reverse engineer it for use against us.
Russia already has a base in Cuba, has already got Venezuela in the bag, Bolivia, too, and recently aadded Honduras. They keep the doors open for the cartels, that are in cahoots with communist dictarships everywhere, and with both the Russian mob and Chinese triangles. Clearly, our politicians would not react at all, with the possible exception of complaining a bit at the UN and maybe temporary sanctions.
Would it have been easier to drive the weapons from Afghanistan?
No, they already have those weapons. These are new ones.
$200 million in defensive aid... Wow, Biden is really going all out to support Ukraine, while probably getting handouts personally from Putin just to put on a little show of resistance.
Biden has been letting Russians be his rump ranger as long as John Kerry has. I remember Biden and Tip O’Niell doing everything they could to accommodate the Russians as they sought to base their military in Nicaragua and started building an airbase in Grenada. Biden hasn’t changed, as he demonstrated by cutting our pipelines and opening the way for Russia’s. He might bluster a bit for the sake of looks in an election year, or to see if Putin is willing to pay more cash to Hunter for access, but Biden isn’t concerned about containing Russia, he would just prefer it if Russia could take Ukraine quietly and covertly so no one is disturbed while watching Netflix, or better yet, wait until after the next election.
No, we are threatened by both, because both empower Putin, among others.
You don’t “start” wars by convincing the Russians to mass troops on Ukraine’s border. Seriously, that idea is just stupid.
Clinton’s promises to Ukraine were as good as his promises to that wife of his.
Who got the Soviet nukes and where are they?
I’m not sure where the Soviet nukes ended up, but I’d be surprised if they ended anywhere but Russia.
On the other hand imagine if Ukraine had kept them and maintained them how ‘interesting’ all of this would be.
Weapons?
What, compact weather stations to be disbursed around the country to monitor the threat of the dreaded climate change?
Then Obama compounded things by eliminating the missile defense systems for Poland, etc., that Bush had already negotiated for. Then Russia decided it didn’t like paying rent for its Navy ...
The Russians have a similar, bigger, and much longer history of it.
Correct, why commit troops when you can make propaganda to make your takeover palatable to Americans of all persuasions and pacify all potential opposition from the superpower you no longer fear?
If they want a conflict there is still one going on in Yemen that they ran from, and Afghanistan that they ran from, and so on. There is opportunity galore in the Americas where the Russians and Chinese and even the Iranians are milling about. Cuba has been needing a good thump For decades. For a bunch of people that supposedly “want” war, running from every one they have (and all with Russia behind them) with their tails between their legs does not seem to be a practical method, especially when unaccompanied by the prerequisite rallying cries to at least win the support of people willing to join up. Instead, the powers that be have done everything possible to keep people from even wanting to wear the uniform to actually defend things. It’s hard to rally around the fag, I mean flag, when it isn’t actually your flag, and when it isn’t your deepest held ideas about liberty and justice you are being sent for, but rather you are being sent to make the world safer for politicians’ offspring to get cushy make work jobs in foreign state owNed enterprises.
The Hill does not understand the difference between bullets and weapons. They just write what the White House sends them to create the WH messaging narrative for domestic consumption. What they sent was 200 million of ammo because sending weapons would be too upsetting to Putin. I guess bullets this time are better than blankets last time.
If we had minded our own business and stayed out of WW1 there is a good chance WW2 wouldn’t have happened and Russia might have never become communist
“Hopefully the Ukrainians can make it hot like the Finns did to Stalin.”
Fortunately for Finland, and unfortunately for Stalin, the Finns had that Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim guy. He did a bang up job of keeping Finland free, even if they did have to give up territory.
I don’t think Ukraine has a Mannerheim and the geography is completely different. Besides, the Russians already have Crimea so they could launch a two pronged attack if they wished.
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