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Why did S.F. supervisors vote against a project to turn a parking lot into 500 housing units?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 28, 2021 | J.K. Dineen

Posted on 01/23/2022 9:40:36 AM PST by grundle

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1 posted on 01/23/2022 9:40:36 AM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

The Eternal Mysteries of the Liberal Hive Mind.


2 posted on 01/23/2022 9:42:24 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

No mystery.

“This is at least partly about punishing Matt Haney for running against Campos,” he said. “They see it as a betrayal.”


3 posted on 01/23/2022 9:50:12 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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I’m not so sure...

Find out who owns the parking lot. Do they make money off of it?

If that lot is big enough for a 500 unit apartment building, I’ll say it’s a decent size lot.

Simple math....It has 250 spaces....$20 a day to park....$5000 a day...$25,000 a week....$100,000 a month....$1,300,000 a year....and that’s not including weekends or any special event parking that may happen.

And that is for what? Maybe paying for an attendant, who WILL be an immigrant of some kind, illegal or legal(maybe) who is getting paid peanuts, some paint for the parking spots every few years, maybe some repaving every 5-10 years. Those things are money makers.

Have a few of those throughout the city and you’re making some serious dough.


4 posted on 01/23/2022 9:50:37 AM PST by qaz123
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To: grundle
They tore down parking lot and put up a paradise.

5 posted on 01/23/2022 9:52:15 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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From the excerpt- The parking lot is owned by Nordstrom, which uses it for valet parking for its nearby department store.


6 posted on 01/23/2022 9:53:41 AM PST by Farmerbob
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“Why did S.F. supervisors vote against a project to turn a parking lot into 500 housing units?”

The last time I was in the Bay Area was probably 15 years ago and even then parking was at a premium.


7 posted on 01/23/2022 9:54:39 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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“You can’t fight City Hall” BUT, what happens when City Hall has a civil war? I remember watching the 2013 Americas Cup racing in the San Francisco waters. The city looked so nice and inviting during that event. But that was the facade, not reality!

Is this the inevitable results of what happens when you have generations of the LEFT making the laws and regulations? City, region and State makes it their utopia, from where I see it, it is a dystopia instead! No wonder Nancy P. is looking to get a home in Florida!


8 posted on 01/23/2022 9:57:07 AM PST by SES1066 (quires )
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The key to successful urban development is bribery of city officials.

If you pay them enough, they are whores and will always say “yes”.


9 posted on 01/23/2022 10:00:07 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: grundle

First they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
Now this.


10 posted on 01/23/2022 10:03:13 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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There you go. There is a profit motive for it and Nordstrom isn’t giving that up without a very, very sizable check. And, being Nordstrom(surprised the store is still open) they pay a boatload in taxes and the last thing San Francisco needs is for them to pack up and slam some plywood on the doors and windows. No business owner, in their right mind, would set up shop in that city now.

San Francisco: Nordstrom we need that parking lot to put up a 500 unit, affordable housing(Section 8 but they won’t say that) complex.

Nordstrom: Nope. Unless you want to claim Imminent Domain and pay us fair market value. And once the check clears we’ll be shutting down the store, taking away those jobs and leaving you with a huge vacant store to try and fill, next to, a 500 unit Section 8 complex. Anything else you want to talk about.

San Francisco: Never mind.

I stopped reading anything, in detail, about SanFrancisco a while back. Everything about that place is corruption, chaos, greed and disgusting. Between Newsome, Pelosi, Zuckerberg, etc etc etc, I could care less if the city fell into the ocean. And Chesa Boudin has only made it worse.

Just let any of the few Conservatives or sane people that may live there a chance to get out.

In one of the Rush Hour movies, Chris Tucker’s character makes a comment about how to find out who is behind all the bad stuff.....Follow the rich white man.

Rush Hour 2 Carter’s Theory of Investigation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gp9QE3prHs


11 posted on 01/23/2022 10:07:29 AM PST by qaz123
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6th Street is/was the SF wine district. People coming in from SFO come in on buses saw nothing but derelicts. With gentrification the place has nowhere to go but up. South of Market(SOMA) became Manhattenized under Willie Brown. Last I looked 469 Stevenson is part of SOMA. This Manhattenization process took care of a lot of union workers at the price of SF’s uniqueness. Stopping this project will not put the genie back in the bottle.

Just look at the convention center. Modern but no one wants to hold them in SF anymore. Know why?


12 posted on 01/23/2022 10:11:49 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: grundle

Because instead of 500 units they can have 3,000 tents?


13 posted on 01/23/2022 10:18:28 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: grundle

stuffing another 500 apartments onto a small alley lot
in the middle of xxxxxx

sounds like just more of what the politicians have already done to destroy San Fransicko


14 posted on 01/23/2022 10:30:46 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SES1066

“I remember watching the 2013 Americas Cup racing in the San Francisco waters. The city looked so nice and inviting during that event. But that was the facade, not reality!”

When I was driving long haul my wife took a month long trip with me once the boys were old enough to leave them home alone.
During that trip we hit LA, Chicago, Miami and Phoenix plus a bit more. Safe to say the wife was underwhelmed by the dirty, dangerous reality of the whole thing. Not the clean, safe inviting cities she had seen on TV. I told her she was seeing the dirty truth that wasn’t shown on TV.


15 posted on 01/23/2022 10:38:11 AM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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This is Nordstrom parking lot. Sure would make it easier on the affordable housing tenets to hop over to Nordstrom and get their “free” $900 merchandise.


16 posted on 01/23/2022 10:42:43 AM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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“Find out who owns the parking lot.”

This one is obvious. Here are four of the ten board members of Nordstrom which controls Nordstrom, Nordstrom Rack, Nordstrom restaurants, Nordstrom Spa, and other businesses along with international through their website servicing 30 countries, and where they live:

Kirsten A. Green – San Francisco
Shellye L. Archambeau, Palo Alto
Stacy Brown-Philpot, San Francisco
Brad D. Smith, Mountain View, California

The parking lot is theirs and they use it for their valet parking.

wy69


17 posted on 01/23/2022 10:56:28 AM PST by whitney69
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Well played!

Somewhere, Joni Mitchell is groaning. Too bad, so sad!


18 posted on 01/23/2022 11:01:01 AM PST by Ratman0823 (Always remember: "Figures don't lie, but liars figure")
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To: qaz123; TexasGator
I was being ironic.

Once you drill down into the details, the "mysteries of the liberal hive mind" invariably turn out to be some cynical little power play on the part of a few powerful individuals, usually with money at its root.

Hence the expression "follow the money."

19 posted on 01/23/2022 11:10:09 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: grundle

Why would anyone want to live in San Francisco in the first place?


20 posted on 01/23/2022 11:15:21 AM PST by Disambiguator
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