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Saying 'Nobody Cares' About The Uyghurs Is Like Saying Nobody Cared About The Jews
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2022 | David Krayden

Posted on 01/20/2022 4:39:03 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Gen.Blather

There is also one other thing: when we liberated the concentration camps near the end of WWII and saw the absolute horror of that...one of the horrors was that we could have known and should have known, but for the actions of some influential people, most Americans didn’t know and were shocked to the core by it.

How could they not be? We had never seen anything like that before, industrialized, mechanized, orderly, documented murder, treating the Jews as a resource from their shaved hair and personal belongings to their human capital as slaves.

But the point is, we felt shame, as many did around the world, at being part of a humanity that could do this.

We don’t even have the fig leaf of saying we are unaware.

I am already (and have been for years) juggling and struggling to modify my spending habits. I just saw an exercise machine that looked like exactly what I have been looking for, but it was being pitched by Lebron James, which makes it a no-go for me. That is just one example.

There is genocide going on all over the earth, some in the open like the Chicoms, some behind closed doors, but it is going on, has always gone on, and will always go on.

We can’t fight all battles all the time. But it doesn’t mean we have to ignore it from a moral perspective.


21 posted on 01/20/2022 6:11:02 AM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: Kaslin

The Uyghur’s are not like the Jews.

The Uyghur are “Islamist” Muslims, like ISIS.


22 posted on 01/20/2022 6:24:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Kaslin

The Chicoms are horribly oppressing more than just the Uighurs. They are also oppressing Christians, followers of Falun Gong, political dissidents, etc.

They don’t just have murder and slavery. They also have a program of organ harvesting from their political prisoners. This is a truly ghastly regime.


24 posted on 01/20/2022 6:28:53 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Flavious_Maximus; ping jockey; Texas; nonliberal

We don’t care about people because of who they are but because of who we are.


25 posted on 01/20/2022 6:38:44 AM PST by Chicory
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To: Maris Crane
If you don’t support the uyghurs, how can you, in all honesty, support the Christians, etc.

I care about my children more than I care about your children.

I care about my fellow Americans more than I care about people who are not my fellow citizens.

I care about my fellow Christians.

And about people who espouse a philosophy which, at its core, tells them to hate and try to subjugate the people I care about? I care very little about them.

I understand if you disagree. But I don't care about your opinions to the contrary.

26 posted on 01/20/2022 11:49:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
The Uyghurs (and most Islamist for that matter) would be doing the same thing to the Chinese (as well as us) if they had the power. The Uyghurs are in no way better than the Chicom’s. /spit.
Your response is a counterfactual based on your own prejudices. But lets say that the Uyghurs would act like the CCP if they ruled China. So what? That is as probable as Tibet controlling it. A fantasy is no reason to ignore genocide. And its quite reminiscent of those who claimed that all Jews were communists. The Uyghurs don't deserve genocide any more than the Han Chinese. And the Han Chinese have a long history of conquering and destroying cultures.
But lets put all of that aside. The US is in a cold war with the PRC, whether our elites accept it or not. So why not undermine the regime by pointing out their crimes against the Ughurs, Falun Dafa, Tibetans, Manchus, Mongols of Inner Mongolia.....?
27 posted on 01/23/2022 3:46:15 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: misanthrope
Are you talking about the 2000 years of Han Chinese expansion?
The Uyghurs aren't asking to conquer territory. They are asking not to be subjected to genocide, or to regain their country of East Turkestan.
28 posted on 01/23/2022 3:47:45 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: ping jockey

Muslims in the US are settlers. Uyghurs in occupied East Turkestan /Xinjianh are people subjected to genocide in their homeland by our enemies, the CCP.


29 posted on 01/23/2022 3:49:10 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: rmlew

“ Are you talking about the 2000 years of Han Chinese expansion?”

No, I’m talking about the well deserved reputation of brutality that moslems have earned for themselves over the last 14 centuries, and the justifiable absence of toleration for moslems in general as a result of their essentially eternal anti-civil behaviour. It is a wonder to me that non moslems do not exterminate moslems en-masse at every opportunity. Moslems are THAT much of a threat to civil humanity. I’d guess the Chinese may share in this opinion to some extent.


30 posted on 01/23/2022 4:03:53 AM PST by misanthrope (Deranged, sinister, deplorable troll)
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To: rmlew

Listen, why is it ALWAYS the USA responsibility to come in and save the day?

The Uyghurs plight is a UN matter and they are not lifting a finger to do anything about it. Tell me what Muslim countries are doing about the enslavement? Nothing, that’s what. Why doesn’t the Taliban send weapons to the Uyghurs? Where are all the suicide bombers in China?

Here is a stone cold fact, if American citizens were under the shackles of China (which in many ways, we already are) then who would save us?

The answer is no one would save us. The rest of the world would be completely indifferent. I am returning the same courtesy.


31 posted on 01/23/2022 5:20:33 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: misanthrope
No, I’m talking about the well deserved reputation of brutality that moslems have earned for themselves over the last 14 centuries, and the justifiable absence of toleration for moslems in general as a result of their essentially eternal anti-civil behaviour. It is a wonder to me that non moslems do not exterminate moslems en-masse at every opportunity. Moslems are THAT much of a threat to civil humanity. I’d guess the Chinese may share in this opinion to some extent.
Your prejudice does not allow you to see reality. Muslims aren't expanding here. Communist China invaded the East Turkestan Republic in 1949 just as they did Tibet. The PRC is settling Han Chinese in non-Han areas and committing cultural genocide. Using UN definitions, they are committing full genocide in Occupied East Turkestan. You sound like a Wumao complaining about the Tibetan Feudalism, and Mongol and Manchu expansionism and crimes against the Han Chinese. Are you also going to say that we should let Beijing take over Taiwan?

And before you make an asinine remark about not taking Islam seriously, I've been warning people about Jihadis since 1993, when I was in High School, and Muslims demographics since 1998. Adults can have two enemies at once. Jihadis are not a peer threat to America. The People's Republic of China is a peer threat in a cold war with us.

32 posted on 01/25/2022 12:59:06 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Flavious_Maximus
China is a peer threat in a Cold War with us. We should use every non-military means to weaken them. You think you are being American first, but you may as well be getting $.50 per comment.
33 posted on 01/25/2022 1:01:07 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
[snip] Enes Kanter wasn’t even born in the United States but he recognizes what is great about America and refuses to bow to China... The Boston Celtics center recently told Fox News that said America values free speech and that is what he tells people who want him to keep silent about human rights abuses in China. “I wore those Free Tibet shoes, right before the game there’s two gentlemen from the NBA came up to me and said, ‘We are begging you, please take those shoes off,’ and I was like, ‘Listen, am I breaking any rules?” ...Kanter told the NBA Gestapo that he wasn’t going to remove his shoes, was prepared to be fined for wearing them. The thugs told him he could be looking more than a fine but a ban. Kanter says he was ready for that as well. [/snip]

34 posted on 02/12/2022 10:56:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Two gentlemen from the NBA came up to me and said, ‘We are begging you, please take those shoes off.’

Kanter told the NBA Gestapo that he wasn’t going to remove his shoes, was prepared to be fined for wearing them.

The thugs told him he could be looking more than a fine but a ban.

Kanter says he was ready for that as well.


35 posted on 02/12/2022 11:41:04 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

As John Goodman’s character in Oh Brother Where Art Thou? said, “It’s all about the money, boys!”


36 posted on 02/12/2022 1:44:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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