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Three cops charged in shooting death of 8-year-old girl after football game
NY Post ^ | 01/19/22 | Steinbuch

Posted on 01/19/2022 8:23:20 AM PST by mcenedo

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To: Openurmind

How do you know that? Do you actually have real knowledge of what occurs when an officer uses force?


41 posted on 01/19/2022 10:24:38 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: mcenedo

The article makes it sound like the police heard shots then returned fire without a target in sight while people were running past them/trying to get away. Who trained them?! Involuntary manslaughter is a reasonable charge for the death of an innocent, little girl. I understand they didn’t “intend” to kill a child but they did...


42 posted on 01/19/2022 10:38:26 AM PST by momtothree
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To: moovova

That is sort of an apples to oranges situation. What occurred in Afghanistan would be an apprehension shooting. If there was negligence involved in the deaths of innocent people in that situation then yes criminal action should be on the table, just like criminal action would be considered when police kill an innocent person with a negligent apprehension shooting. In a defensive shooting, police are generally given immunity, because we would rather have the cop stop the threat, than sit and watch somebody die because there might be a house down range. There is not enough information in this story to tell whether this was an apprehension shooting, or a defensive shooting, but based on the fact they initially charged the criminals with murder for the death that occurred while they were committing a crime, I assume they initially clear the officers of wrongdoing.


43 posted on 01/19/2022 10:40:48 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: mcenedo

Reckless disregard for where their bullets would go after a spray-n-pray event is inexcusable. These jerks wouldn’t hesitate one second to arrest you for this and it’s only right they should face the same penalty they’d hand out.


44 posted on 01/19/2022 10:58:23 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Yogafist

With regards to military action there are Rules of Engagement (ROE). Sometimes any collateral loss is acceptable and sometimes it isn’t.

Police are not the military and American civilians are not an enemy population.


45 posted on 01/19/2022 11:11:03 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Magnum44

“If you had a point to make, I missed it.”

It’s kind like in tv or the movies you don’t see people smoking or black people acting stupid.


46 posted on 01/19/2022 11:18:08 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: mcenedo

I think you are quite probably correct but with the limited information it is hard to make a call on this one. It does sound like the officers violated a major rule of shooting, not knowing what is behind or between their target. I don’t think there was criminal intent they for sure will lose on the civil end of a court battle.


47 posted on 01/19/2022 11:55:17 AM PST by sarge83
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To: flamberge

Ahhh..the old Chapter 17, Sub-Section 12a, Paragraph 27, Sub-Paragraph P, to wit...”only if the day of the week doesn’t end in “Y” argument...

...which can always be overridden by the “cause I said so” demand (sometimes referred to as the “I’ll tell your wife/husband we slept together and I have pictures” ploy).

We are so screwed.


48 posted on 01/19/2022 12:10:51 PM PST by moovova
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To: Yogafist

OK OK...you win. And you’re probably right. LOL

I just got the impression from the article that the cops shooting was sloppy...

“The cops “discharged their service weapons in the direction of the Academy Park football field,” “

...even though the initial shots came from a block away. That statement was used twice in the article. Did the cops ever even see the bad guys?


49 posted on 01/19/2022 12:25:33 PM PST by moovova
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To: Lurker

# If an ordinary citizen would be charged in a given situation then cops should be too.

^^^THIS


50 posted on 01/19/2022 12:32:50 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: moovova

After I started this discussion I read the article again, plus another sent to me by a friend and I also wondered about this shooting, but I also don’t expect the media to be fair or even neutral when reporting on police action so I slanted my opinion to assume the article was written to turn readers against police.


51 posted on 01/19/2022 2:08:54 PM PST by Yogafist
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