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Fresh violence in Kazakhstan after Russia sends troops to put down uprising
One America News ^ | January 6, 2022 | Rooters (Globalist Bias)

Posted on 01/06/2022 10:10:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: MercyFlush

“Then the lesson here is that any nation with a sizable Russian population should KICK THEM THE HELL OUT so Russia doesn’t use them as an excuse to invade.”

I guess they can try, if they feel lucky that is.


61 posted on 01/06/2022 2:16:12 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

The threatening tone of your post is all the more reason for countries bordering Russia to evict the bastards right back to Russia.


62 posted on 01/06/2022 2:18:18 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Frankly I’d rather have the Russians control that part of the world, than the Muslims.


63 posted on 01/06/2022 2:20:52 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MercyFlush

“The threatening tone of your post...”

Sorry if I scared you. I’ll tell Vlad to go soft when other countries start abusing Russians.


64 posted on 01/06/2022 2:33:00 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Wuli
Regimes that fix or subsidize energy/fuel prices by executive fiat and at some point have to raise them, or allow market forces to raise them, forget that the previous fixed/subsidized prices were taken as an entitlement for as long as the prices stayed low.

This is true and a valid point, however it would do well to specify that Price Controls (price fixing) and Commodity Subsidization (fuel), generally arise from Socialist (or Marxist) Policy, and that policy ALWAYS fails, even more so over long periods of time, and the Market ALWAYS eventually reflects that failure. Kazakh fuel price policy was doomed to complete failure.

Kazakhstan had extreme Marxist Policy imposed in 1918, and it started to taper just slightly in 1990.

It is Europe, not Russia (or even Communist China) that has initiated the push for Far Eastern European Nations and Western Asian Nations like Kazakhstan to adopt more Free Market and Spot Market Policies.

Finally Tokayev ordered the fuel price increase rescinded.

So some questions remain,

Why so much shooting revolutionary violence against police officers instantly, instead of a growing protest that would result in reduction of fuel prices to the old subsided standard, without major violence and property destruction?

Why now at the perfect point of Publicity inconvenience for Russia who has NOT been interfering in Kazakh economic policy?

65 posted on 01/06/2022 3:30:32 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

The protests did not just begin just the other day.

some background going back a few years (i don’t think the wiki page has been updated for 2021-2)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932020_Kazakh_protests


66 posted on 01/06/2022 4:06:44 PM PST by Wuli
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To: dfwgator; Navy Patriot

Kazakhstan’s main problems are explosive population growth and tribal structure since the end of the Soviet era.
Both weren’t a problem before 1991 where everybody was free to move around USSR without borders and communists provided inclusion for every clan.
They have little of value, except sand and minerals, and only so many jobs.
The top families are holding everything in their hands, leaving everyone else little. The elites are largely US and UK oriented, where they educate their children and keep their ill-gotten riches.
There is a white minority, mostly Russians, Ukrainians and Germans living in the north, the former Russian lands ceded by Khruschev along with Crimea. They are doing better than non-connected Kazakhs due to better education and work ethics, but largely excluded from government and mostly scapegoated by the elites to distract “mambets” or young poor Kazakhs from the government corruption.
There is a “touran” movement of Turk-centered Islamists growing in popularity, aimed against both Western-leaning elites and the white middle class.
China is another camel trying to put its nose into tent.
All in all, the situation is not good. The current crisis is obviously Western-inspired with the idea of giving “touran” the upper hand.


67 posted on 01/06/2022 5:39:41 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Navy Patriot

https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-protests-analysis-poverty-corruption/31641045.html


68 posted on 01/06/2022 9:00:13 PM PST by gandalftb
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To: Navy Patriot

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69 posted on 01/06/2022 9:38:59 PM PST by sauropod (Resident Bidet. A confused old man at the wrong bus stop.)
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To: tlozo

I’d also point out that the USSR exported a lot of Russians to Donbass, etc., when they reconquered Ukraine, in a program of a sort of ethnic domination. My Dad had a little older friend from the area — he hated the Russians and the Nazis from Germany equally. So far as I can read it over the decades, if not centuries, Dad’s friend was absolutely correct.


70 posted on 01/06/2022 10:16:09 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: gandalftb

Pretty good article. However, I do not think it stresses enough how repressive the Kazak gov’t has been for a long time, including non-freedom of worship as well as speech. Repressive gov’ts can last a long time if times are not too bad. But if times stay bad, and increasingly Kazaks are aware of the rest of the world and what mineral and energy resources can do for a people, that sort of repression almost always leads to the lid being blown off the jar, eventually, outside help or not.


71 posted on 01/06/2022 10:31:19 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: gandalftb

It seems to me that a crucial point will be the reaction of Kazaks to Russian troops being brought in and killing Kazaks. So far...


72 posted on 01/06/2022 10:39:35 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Sounds like a good place to go to war with Russia and station troops there for the next 20 years.


73 posted on 01/06/2022 10:42:08 PM PST by McGruff
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To: Navy Patriot

From another thread:

“protesters being accused of beheading three police officers”

Who does that sound like.


74 posted on 01/06/2022 10:44:10 PM PST by McGruff
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To: BobL

I certainly hope you’re getting paid well to troll for your Russian puppet masters.


75 posted on 01/07/2022 8:48:38 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush

“I certainly hope you’re getting paid well to troll for your Russian puppet masters.”

Actually, some of us take the time to understand what’s going on in Russia and the surrounding area (and hint: The Cold War is over).


76 posted on 01/07/2022 8:49:57 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

The Cold War is not over. It took a bit of a break during the Yeltsin years but Pooty-poot brought it right back.

And if Russian citizens who live in other countries as colonists of Russia are not happy then they need to go back to Russia and take their Russian passports with them.


77 posted on 01/07/2022 8:58:55 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush

Oh well...we’ll just see who runs things there.


78 posted on 01/07/2022 9:02:32 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

“Oh well...we’ll just see who runs things there.”

Or perhaps we’ll see one of Putin’s FSB buddies put a .17 caliber bullet in the back of his head and then announce that he died of a brain problem.

It would be a fitting act of justice considering Pooty used to do this kind of thing himself executing people in the Lubyanka.


79 posted on 01/07/2022 9:06:18 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: NorseViking
Thanks, Norse, this makes it somewhat more clear.

The sudden development of serious violence against Kazakh police seemed too convenient for the Biden Regime and their Maidan cohorts.

80 posted on 01/07/2022 9:16:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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