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Fresh violence in Kazakhstan after Russia sends troops to put down uprising
One America News ^ | January 6, 2022 | Rooters (Globalist Bias)

Posted on 01/06/2022 10:10:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: Renfrew

“When you need to bring in foreign troops to shoot your own people, you have already lost the population.”

Either that or you’re fighting an enemy being materially supported by a foreign power.


41 posted on 01/06/2022 10:51:53 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Reily

“The Russian goal is to as near as possible recover the borders of 1914.”

Either that or not have ENEMY STATES on their borders.


42 posted on 01/06/2022 10:52:58 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Savage Rider

“Who am I supposed to be pulling for?”

Whoever the media is NOT supporting or wants you to support.


43 posted on 01/06/2022 10:54:25 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL
Either that or not have ENEMY STATES on their borders.

You mean like our Monroe Doctrine? How dare Russia try to copy us.

44 posted on 01/06/2022 10:54:31 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MercyFlush

“Ukraine would not be in trouble if the Russians were not illegally occupying Crimea and Donbass.”

Actually Russians are the majority of RESIDENTS in both areas.


45 posted on 01/06/2022 10:55:36 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Renfrew
When you need to bring in foreign troops to shoot your own people, you have already lost the population might be in the middle of an actual insurrection.

There you go.

46 posted on 01/06/2022 11:02:29 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: BobL
Actually Russians are the majority of RESIDENTS in both areas.

No, Russians were only a majority in Crimea.

According to a 2001 census, ethnic Ukrainians make up 56.9% of the total population of Donbas as a whole with ethnic Russians making up the largest minority, making up 38.2% of the total population of Donbas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic

47 posted on 01/06/2022 11:04:30 AM PST by tlozo
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To: dfwgator
You really think that’s what they’re going to get?

There is a chance for freedom and democracy, which does not exist for them now.

48 posted on 01/06/2022 11:06:19 AM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

The Western nations do not allow freedom when it comes to COVID policy that is for sure.


49 posted on 01/06/2022 11:14:57 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Navy Patriot

The title is wrong.

The violence is not “fresh” arising from the Russian actions. It was already happening before the Russian action. Putin thinks he is backing up one of his state-underlings (how he thinks of them whether they agree with that or not). In 2013 Putin made the statement that the Kazaks had never had an independent state; which is historically not true. The Soviet Union did not capture Kazakhstan, that was done in the 1800s by the Russian Empire prior to the formation of the Soviet Union and some 400 years after an indepedent Kazak state had been formed. As a result of the history as a part of the Russian/Soviet empire, the use of the Russian language stands about even with the Kazak language in Kazakhstan.


50 posted on 01/06/2022 11:24:19 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Navy Patriot
"The rallies were triggered after the government removed a cap on the price of liquefied petroleum gas, one of the most popular fuels in the country, which saw the price double almost immediately."
51 posted on 01/06/2022 11:40:27 AM PST by tlozo
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To: Renfrew

“The Kazakh regime is bringing in Russian troops to save them.”

Yes, they have had mainly one executive authority figure - Nursultan Nazarbaev - since their independence from the Soviet Union, and even though Nazarbaev claimed to be retired in 2019 everyone suspects/thinks he still pulled most of the strings when he chose.

But, here is the part of the background story many reports are leaving out and may be why only now are Russian troops being called in to help the Kazak regime.

“Autocratic former president Nursultan Nazarbaev, who’d led Kazakhstan since independence, resigned in 2019 but remained a powerful figure behind the scenes (until being relieved of his position on the Security Council on Wednesday). Such a transition model may have appealed to Putin at the time, but it looks less promising today.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/asia/kazakhstan-uprising-russia-analysis-intl/index.html

I think it is a legitimate question if the Kazak regime would have called Russia in if Nazarbaev was still on the Kazak security council and it is noteworthy how swiftly Russia came in after Nazarbaev was taken off the security council.


52 posted on 01/06/2022 11:43:19 AM PST by Wuli
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To: MercyFlush

It is Putties intent to re-establish the Soviet Union, by hook or crook.


53 posted on 01/06/2022 11:44:10 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 )
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To: Renfrew

“The Kazakh regime is bringing in Russian troops to save them.”

Yes, they have had mainly one executive authority figure - Nursultan Nazarbaev - since their independence from the Soviet Union, and even though Nazarbaev claimed to be retired in 2019 everyone suspects/thinks he still pulled most of the strings when he chose.

But, here is the part of the background story many reports are leaving out and may be why only now are Russian troops being called in to help the Kazak regime.

“Autocratic former president Nursultan Nazarbaev, who’d led Kazakhstan since independence, resigned in 2019 but remained a powerful figure behind the scenes (until being relieved of his position on the Security Council on Wednesday). Such a transition model may have appealed to Putin at the time, but it looks less promising today.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/asia/kazakhstan-uprising-russia-analysis-intl/index.html

I think it is a legitimate question if the Kazak regime would have called Russia in if Nazarbaev was still on the Kazak security council and it is noteworthy how swiftly Russia came in after Nazarbaev was taken off the security council.


54 posted on 01/06/2022 11:49:12 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Savage Rider

The country is about 23% Christian, 70%+ Muslim. A recipe for instability.


55 posted on 01/06/2022 12:03:58 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Navy Patriot

Regimes that fix or subsidize energy/fuel prices by executive fiat and at some point have to raise them, or allow market forces to raise them, forget that the previous fixed/subsidized prices were taken as an entitlement for as long as the prices stayed low.

That was what Kazakhstan had been doing for many years and only just in 2019 began to transition to fuel prices being determined by markets.

The current turmoil has followed the end of government subsidized fuel prices and this past years increase in market based fuel prices. It may be better for the Kazaks in the long run but for now they feel like a former entitlement has been pulled away - which is in fact what has happened. Try ending all federal long standing aid for XXXXX today and see what happens.


56 posted on 01/06/2022 12:04:31 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Navy Patriot

“Ukraine would not be in trouble if the Maidan Agitators had not performed a Coup d’état and illegally removed the Lawful Ukraine Government.”

And this gave Russia an excuse to invade Ukraine...how?


57 posted on 01/06/2022 2:07:18 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: BobL

“Actually Russians are the majority of RESIDENTS in both areas.”

Then the lesson here is that any nation with a sizable Russian population should KICK THEM THE HELL OUT so Russia doesn’t use them as an excuse to invade.


58 posted on 01/06/2022 2:11:25 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Joe Boucher

I agree.

And I notice the Putin trolls are here today to serve their master.


59 posted on 01/06/2022 2:12:02 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: quadrant

Ukraine can also obtain or develop nuclear weapons to deter the Russian prestupniks.

Or they can join NATO. That’s always an option.


60 posted on 01/06/2022 2:15:05 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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