Posted on 01/06/2022 5:08:27 AM PST by tlozo
Putin invaded in 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
war with the russians in the winter is a bad idea. My fear is that since we have never known war, except as entertainment on cnn (and one percent of population that served in war zones). We don’t understand the consequences of “real” war. Going up against a near peer military power that can match us with air support and artillery. We believe our technology is superior to the russians. What if we’re wrong? The t-34 was a big f^cking surprise to the nazis! What about logistics? The russians could easily resupply forces and ours would have to travel how far?
“The call for all foreign troops out of Ukraine is like the tenth step of the Minsk Accords and applies to BOTH sides.”
It’s not the tenth step, it is one of several mandates. It does not apply to BOTH sides, as only Russians are in Ukraine.
And, yes, he is a rocket scientist.
In 2014 the Ukrainians foolishly threatened not renewing the lease on Putin’s military port on the Black Sea. Something he pretty much can’t live without. Add that to the fact that most people in the Crimea wanted to break from the Ukraine so he annexed it.
Putin has not invaded and occupied the Ukraine and likely won’t try because he has the same GDP as Texas and cannot afford it. He would have a terrible time holding it as the Ukrainians hate the Russians guts. And the EU is just itching to bet it on with Putin and try to drag the US into it. No, Putin is not going to get dragged into that.
Author Robert Zubrin with Musk
Inform yourself. Battle of Ilovaisk, inside Ukraine was between Ukrainian forces and regular Russian troops:Russian 6th Tank Brigade, 8th Motor Rifle Brigade, 18th Motor Rifle Brigade, 21st Motor Rifle Brigade, 31st Air Assault Brigade, 137th Airborne Regiment, 247th Air Assault Regiment, 331st Airborne Regiment and 1065th Artillery Regiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk
Biden and his white liberal ‘elites’ can’t protect American borders... NOW THEY - - - AND THEIR PENTAGON THUGS - - WANT ADVENTURE IN UKRAINE?
Fun like we had in Afghanistan? Can’t hold a third world hellhole but we’re ready to ‘show our stuff’ in Ukraine? Gimme a break. Biden’s not the man to do the job. And his ‘brass’ is better at protecting sexual weirdo than protecting our country.
If we must fight - then wait for a better quality Administration. This one can’t handle the pandemic, inflation, Afghanistan, China, Supply Chains, etc etc etc.
Let’s not have a new disaster for Biden and his press thugs to wallow in then cover up.
Until they can they need to shut up about defending the borders of countries half way across the world that have nothing to do with us... Ukraine paid off Hunter but that’s not a good enough reason for thousands or even millions of Americans to die in some stupid war.
If Hunter wants to kick back some of the millions he collected from Ukraine or he and his ‘on the take’ family want to suit up and go fight the Russians - fine. They took the cash they can ‘pay the price’/.
But NOT us - not Americans. WE WANT OUR BORDERS DEFENDED.
Sorry - must re-read before posting...
Putin’s words contained some crucial factual inaccuracies, but Russia’s engagement was not one of them, and here he seemed quite clear. He stated that: “We were forced to defend the Russian-speaking population of Donbas, forced to react to the desire of people living in Crimea to return to the Russian Federation".
This was not the first time Putin has admitted a military role in Donbas. On Dec 17, 2015, he acknowledged that “Russian military personnel were “resolving various issues" in Donbas. He had been asked by Ukrainian journalist, Roman Tsymbalyuk about possible compliance with the Minsk agreement by releasing all Ukrainian political prisoners like Nadiya Savchenko and Oleg Sentsov, exchanging them for two Russian military intelligence officers captured in the Luhansk oblast. Putin began by claiming that Russia had never said that they did not have people in Donbas engaged in various activities, including in the military sphere.
Moscow has always admitted that Russian nationals were fighting in Donbas, but has assiduously pushed the narrative that they are prompted, as Putin once claimed, “by the call of the heart”, and in no way Russian soldiers or mercenaries.
There is enormous satellite, video, witness and other evidence giving the lie to these claims. There are also the graves of Russian soldiers who are known to have been killed in Donbas.
https://khpg.org/en/1476316494
No US troops were EVER mentioned.
Weak...Straw man argument.
I know how democrats blunder things.
Inflation’s only temporary right? And we’ll get all our people out of Afghanistan.... right?
And there won’t be any ‘boots on the ground’... right. And shutting down the Keystone won’t effect gas prices... and giving Germany the go to import Russian oil while we’re still paying to protect Germany from Russians is logical? RIGHT?
And Blinken’s a great negotiator - just ask the Chinese who totally walked all over him.
I don’t trust the Biden Administration to handle this situation because they HAVE A TRACK RECORD A YEAR LONG TRACK RECORD TAT SCREAMS THEY CAN’T BE TRUSTED.
I just stated the basic facts. It is what it is. Putin is not going to invade the Ukraine and China is not going to try to take back Taiwan.
Poles would never let that happen under Russian domination. Kievan Rus’ are Russian speakers, while Poland etc are not. There is no will to recreate the USSR in Russia
Old East Slavic (traditionally also: Old Russian, Belarusian: старажытнаруская мова; Russian: древнерусский язык; Ukrainian: давньоруська мова) was a language used during the 10th–15th centuries by East Slavs in Kievan Rus' and its successor states, from which the Belarusian, Russian, Rusyn, and Ukrainian languages later evolved.
With time, it evolved into several more diversified forms, which were the predecessors of the modern Belarusian, Russian, Rusyn and Ukrainian languages. The regional languages were distinguishable starting in the 12th or 13th century. Thus different variations evolved of the Russian language in the regions of Novgorod, Moscow, South Russia and meanwhile the Ukrainian language was also formed. Each of these languages preserves much of the Old East Slavic grammar and vocabulary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_East_Slavic
I hate these effin’ neocons.
They have nearly completely ruined this great republic.
I wish them ALL miserable death.
“and I would allow them to join NATO”
NEVER!!!
NATO is too big already and the US has no interests in any part of Ukraine.
Of the 15,000 US citizens, how many are Ukrainians who acquired US citizenship?? - dual-citizenship??
I don’t know, but suspect, our laws for granting US citizenship have become too loosely-goosy.
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