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Are athletes more are at risk from COVID or vax side-effects? How do we explain the extraordinary number of otherwise healthy young athletes who have suddenly died of heart attacks in the last six months?
American Thinker ^ | 12/21/2021 | James Stansbury

Posted on 12/22/2021 8:20:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: enumerated

Are you saying there hasn’t really been a sharp increase in deaths among soccer players this year? That it’s only because people are looking for it?


41 posted on 12/22/2021 9:06:52 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/


42 posted on 12/22/2021 9:08:04 AM PST by algore
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s that athletes are more likely to submit to getting vaxxed, so higher numbers of the vaxxed are going to include more injuries and deaths, especially in a younger population that seems to be more at risk from the vaxxes.


43 posted on 12/22/2021 9:09:19 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: SaxxonWoods

RE: deaths and survived heart attacks among young athletes have always been around, but they are way up since COVID got started.

That’s what I find curious. I am fully aware that athletes do collapse from heart attacks in the past. One example is Boston Celtics star, Len Bias ( that was a long time ago, and attributed to his having used cocaine ).

BUT I DO NOT SEE THIS AS FREQUENTLY AS I SEE IT IN 2021.


44 posted on 12/22/2021 9:10:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: nascarnation

Maybe the American athletes are not getting the real shot.
If nfl and nba players started dying, folks would notice.


45 posted on 12/22/2021 9:20:10 AM PST by Iceclimber58
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To: SeekAndFind

do we see Marathoners and/or similar athletes collapse with heart attacks in the past?
= = =

It seems that, in the past, about two high school athletes would die unexpectedly, and it would be due to undetected heart defects.

And the whole nation would know. They would make national news.

But now they fall over on camera. Lots of them.

Is their heart working harder, and more vulnerable? Are they pumping more blood with spikes in it? Are they leaner and less fat in the blood vessels to protect them from nanos?


46 posted on 12/22/2021 9:23:49 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words, is what we’re seeing now COMMON pre-pandemic? Only no big deal was ever made of them.

To believe that, one would have to believe that FIFA was either covering up the deaths prior to 2021, or inflating the deaths in 2021.

The sample is long enough (20-year history) and large enough (265,000 players and coaches) to indicate something out of the ordinary and widespread.

-PJ
47 posted on 12/22/2021 9:38:35 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

Or is it that young folks in sports get more news reports about them than the average young person, and if all adverse vaccine reactions of all young folks were reported as well as are those for young folks in sports the full extent of the adverse reactions would not be avoidable in the LameStreamMedia.


48 posted on 12/22/2021 9:53:21 AM PST by Wuli
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To: gitmo

I’m not saying that.

I’m just saying that there is plenty of reason to question anything you hear if it is even remotely related to Covid or Covid “vaccines”.

Any data - climate data for example - can be cherry-picked, and used to support a weak argument or a false conclusion.

If you pick the right set of weather events - temperature changes, water levels, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc., and limit your time period, or your region, etc… you can easily support any conclusion you want.

There is so much obvious lying about Covid, and so many conflicts of interest, that I don’t trust anyone.

Maybe more soccer players have died recently - I don’t know.
Even if they have - I don’t know if it’s significant.

This is what happens when your government and your media tell lies and silence dissent. You can’t trust anything but what you see with your own eyes.

What I see with my own eyes are a few things that I can use:

Nobody I know got very sick from Covid, and I know a lot of people.
Everyone that died with Covid was already dying of something else.
The distancing and masks made no difference in who caught or spread it.
The “vaccines” make no difference in who catches or spreads it.

Nobody I know got very sick from the “vaccines” either.

Bottom line, since the risk from Covid is very low, and if I caught it, my immunity would be much stronger than my immunity from a lousy “vaccine”, then common sense tells me I shouldn’t take the vaccine regardless of how low or high the risks are.

So, just using my own observations and common sense, I have a plan I’m happy with, without having to rely on cherry picked “data” and agenda driven reports.


49 posted on 12/22/2021 10:01:22 AM PST by enumerated
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To: SeekAndFind

Jim Fixx was not available for comment


50 posted on 12/22/2021 10:08:17 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: SeekAndFind
Before anyone flames me, let me get this right out of my chest — I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE VACCINES ARE CAUSING THESE HEART ATTACKs AND DEATHS.

OK, I will say it, because it is obvious and my own “little” brother in his 50s and an airline pilot for decades with no heart related medical problems was grounded after he got the Pfizer. This happened when he went to his 6 month 1st class FAA mandatory flight physical. The pilot's union has lost more pilots to heart attack this year than ever before... many, many times more. It is not just young men and athletes who get swollen and inflamed hearts from the clot shots. People are free to flame away.

THE VACCINES ARE CAUSING THESE HEART ATTACKs AND DEATHS!

51 posted on 12/22/2021 10:16:32 AM PST by fireman15
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To: SeekAndFind

The graph in the article is very confusing. The article repeatedly says that 108 soccer players and coaches died this year, and the title above the graph says the same thing. But the graph itself appears to show only about 21 deaths, based on the scale at the left-hand side.


52 posted on 12/22/2021 10:44:09 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind
OK let’s grant that, next question — do we see Marathoners and/or similar athletes collapse with heart attacks in the past?"

Years ago, there was Jim Fixx, but I think he was about 40 when he had his heart attack.
53 posted on 12/22/2021 10:46:24 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard a few stories about American athletes having heart issues after the vaccination, but among name athletes there have been no on-field collapses or deaths that I’m aware of. Why is this happening elsewhere, but not here?


54 posted on 12/22/2021 10:48:30 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dforest

that makes sense


55 posted on 12/22/2021 11:36:22 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Justa

So... the trick to getting better treatment is to not mention the vax at all?


56 posted on 12/22/2021 11:42:43 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Safrguns

That makes sense as well. Seems like you could easily prove such a theory by injecting some lab animals and pushing them on treadmills...


57 posted on 12/22/2021 11:44:35 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Safe and rare. Horse paste.

You know, the, the thing!


58 posted on 12/22/2021 11:46:09 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>But I find it bizarre that we are seeing this phenomenon only in 2021.

If you are only seeing it in 2021, its probably because you have only been looking at it since 2021 - sudden cardiac death in young athletes has been a leading cause of death for young athletes for a long time - just because you haven’t been paying attention, doesn’t mean its new.


59 posted on 12/22/2021 12:37:18 PM PST by qwerty1234
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“ sudden cardiac death in young athletes has been a leading cause of death for young athletes for a long time - just because you haven’t been paying attention, doesn’t mean its new.”

Sudden cardiac death in athletes is not new, but it is NOT common. It typically occurs at a rate of 4-6 per year.

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“Dr. Josh Guetzkow, a senior lecturer in the Department of Sociology and Anthropology and the Institute of Criminology at the Hebrew University, analyzed the data. “An article published in the British Medical Journal shows that the risk of SCD is one in 50,000 (with a range from one in 30,000 to one in 80,000),” he explains. “According to FIFA data, in 2000 there were 242,000 athletes registered in the association, and in 2006 there were 265,000 athletes registered. Assuming FIFA has not changed significantly in twenty years, can expect about 5 deaths a year”.

According to Wikipedia, under “List of association footballers who died while playing”, in 2001-2020 there was an average of 4.2 deaths per year attributed to SCD or SUD, the vast majority being SCD. In contrast, in 2021, according to our list, there were 21 cases of SCD/SUD among FIFA players. In other words, instead of 4 SCD/SUD deaths per year (according to Wikipedia data), or 5 cases per year (calculated according to the BMJ) during 2001-2020, 21 players have died so far this year.”

https://stephenc.substack.com/p/5-fold-increase-in-sudden-cardiac

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This study shows about 4 deaths/year

Sudden cardiac death in the soccer field: a retrospective study in young soccer players from 2000 to 2013

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25419885/


60 posted on 12/22/2021 12:43:51 PM PST by LilFarmer
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