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Novavax’s Covid-19 Vaccine Approved by EU: Move paves way in Europe for first shot using an established vaccine technology
ABC News ^ | 12/21/2021 | Mike Corder, Associated Press

Posted on 12/21/2021 5:59:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: DugwayDuke

Labeling people on this forum as “anti-vaxxeers” is not only dishonest, they’re not in general, it’s intellectually lazy.

If anything, this new option highlights the concerns people have for these mRNA vaccines where people are dying or having many other adverse reactions. Nobody is being honest about the data - either the VAERS data or from the trials (being withheld for decades).

It’s quite rational to be skeptical - and you’re going to take that tone with Freeper’s here? I’ve been jabbed but regret it. This is not Small Pox or Polio - where you may have 30% mortality. The starting point for most is 99.9+% survivability - the jab just adds a couple of 9’s. That’s it - but then subtract those that die from the shot.

This is all madness.


21 posted on 12/21/2021 6:38:11 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: DugwayDuke
"Wonder what the excuse for not taking this vaccine will be?"

It is a personal choice. I prefer proven technology like Novavax and instead of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J that short-cut the standard testing practices.

Have not heard of any deaths, blood clots or other side effects from Novavax.

If a person dies or is injured by a mRNA, who will the family sue for damages? I guess you would think I am an anti-vaxxer even if I get the Novavax next year. I am an anti-mRNA, if Novavax does not become available I will not get the others.
22 posted on 12/21/2021 6:46:34 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: semimojo; DugwayDuke

RE: True.

Good, we are on the same page here

RE: The problem is when people produce misinformation intended to frighten and dissuade others from taking the vaccine.

What is or is not misinformation can only be determined by a robust debate and exchange of ideas, not suppression of speech like what the big tech are doing.

If you believe someone is posting misinformation, feel free to counter that with better information.


23 posted on 12/21/2021 6:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What about Drugs to fight it not fake vaccine


24 posted on 12/21/2021 6:48:46 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: DugwayDuke

If only you could execute the refusers the world would be a better place.


25 posted on 12/21/2021 6:49:20 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: rktman

RE: Still no.

I respect your choice.

I personally have been vaxxed with a similar technology as Novavax for Hepatitis.


26 posted on 12/21/2021 6:49:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: DugwayDuke

Bugs? Who wants to get injected with bug cells? Just imagine what could happen to you!


27 posted on 12/21/2021 6:50:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: DugwayDuke
Wonder what the excuse for not taking this vaccine will be?

Who the hell cares? It's none of your f****g business.

28 posted on 12/21/2021 6:51:52 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: SeekAndFind

As we respect yours. 😏


29 posted on 12/21/2021 6:52:45 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: DugwayDuke

“No doubt this forum will be flooded with posts from the anti-vaxxer websites about how dangerous it is.”

Anti-vaxer? Did Fauci give you your favorite flavor when you drank the Kool Aid?

People who are covid vaccine hesitant are not anti-vaxers. They just don’t trust the specific covid vaccines, due to their track record of destruction.


30 posted on 12/21/2021 6:53:57 AM PST by odawg
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To: butlerweave

RE: What about Drugs to fight it not fake vaccine

Pfizer is coming out with an oral pill that according to their studies, is a protease inhibitor that prevents a critical enzyme used by the virus from helping it replicate, thus stopping it in its tracks.

I think, it’s already gone through Phase III testing.


31 posted on 12/21/2021 6:57:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a valid excuse.
I have Sars Covid-19 ANTIBODIES.

I was tested last week as part of my annual physical. I had covid-19 last February. Based on what Dr Peter McCullough has stated during his Joe Rogan interview, I now have antibodies for the REST OF MY LIFE. I can NEVER catch Sars Covid-19 ever again.


32 posted on 12/21/2021 6:58:21 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: SeekAndFind
What is or is not misinformation can only be determined by a robust debate and exchange of ideas...

Nonsense. It doesn't take robust debate to determine that VAERS data is very often misrepresented.

All it takes is going to the CDC VAERS website.

33 posted on 12/21/2021 7:01:53 AM PST by semimojo
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To: woodbutcher1963

RE: I have a valid excuse.
I have Sars Covid-19 ANTIBODIES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

If I were you, I would regularly check for antibody levels just to make sure they are still robust as time passes.


34 posted on 12/21/2021 7:04:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: semimojo

RE: doesn’t take robust debate to determine that VAERS data is very often misrepresented.

Then feel free to point out the misrepresentation.

Others are free to counter you if they feel you’re wrong.

We, the readers decide who has the better read of the data, or whether the data is trustworthy.

As long as there is no suppression of speech. I’m good with that.


35 posted on 12/21/2021 7:07:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

By the way jerk, my wife is under doctor’s orders to NOT take any of the vaccines.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


36 posted on 12/21/2021 7:08:50 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: SeekAndFind

Killing them softly. 😣


37 posted on 12/21/2021 7:10:04 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind; DugwayDuke

Sorry ignore that post, don’t know why it went to you, it was for the medical expert named above.


38 posted on 12/21/2021 7:10:33 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: SeekAndFind

So, the EU has 27 mostly sovereign Nations and the US has 50 mostly sovereign Nations. Interesting.


39 posted on 12/21/2021 7:13:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: fuzzylogic

fuzzylogic wrote: “This is not Small Pox or Polio - where you may have 30% mortality. The starting point for most is 99.9+% survivability”

Actually, the survival rate for polio was comparable, ie, ~99%.


40 posted on 12/21/2021 7:23:09 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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