Posted on 11/18/2021 1:20:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot
There’s a lot of Marines that won’t be reenlisting or are being discharged over the jab.
“On the other hand, Ukraine is about Useless to Russia, with the exception of natural resources, which is what the Globalist Oligarchs want.”
The resources and its strategic location: Odessa, Lvov, and the salient into eastern Europe. It already has Belarus as a toady ally, and taking Ukraine (just to the south of Belarus), would create a formidable north-south line from the Baltic Sea south to Romania.
There is no scenario in which we fight China or Russia and “win”. We can only lose.
Thomas Norris, MOH, Vietnam circa 1972 was shot in the head by NVA soldiers. A South Vietnamese “partner” of US Special Forces in Vietnam, involved in a pilot rescue operation with Navy Seals, left Lt. Norris for dead.
Mike Thornton, also an MOH, and an enlisted navy seal, who was approximately 6’ 6” and 250 pounds was duly informed by the South Vietnamese soldier that Norris was dead and that he had left him about a half mile away surrounded by NVA.
Long story short, Thornton ran across an open battlefield under constant fire from NVA soldiers and picked up Norris even though part of his brain was sticking out and his left eye was gone. Carrying Norris across the battlefield under fire, Thornton headed back toward the beach where he carried Norris into the surf/water and swam/towed him and a wounded SV soldier a mile or two to the USS Newport News.
Our Special Forces and Marines today, under pressure from Marxist Democrats loyal to our enemies (read Marxist China), are intentionally seeking to, by feminist/marxist inspired policies, weaken our special forces by lowering physical standards.
Every American needs to wake up and STOP this cancer that is growing in our military.
That’s fine, as long as the helicopters are playing “Pipeline” during the operation.
They could go by the name Special Spikes...
So nuclear powers are going to war, but we will have our troops ready to go? Hope they like glow-in-the-dark skin.
Ukraine does have a strategic location in relation to Russia, but the Russians haven't had access to that strategic location since late 2013.
Their response was the Nordstream 2 Pipeline and other transport around Ukraine completed this last month.
For eight years Ukraine has been totally useless to Russia, and now they are totally irrelevant.
Russia is not going to risk anything for Ukraine, they have all the European access they need.
... taking Ukraine (just to the south of Belarus), would create a formidable north-south line from the Baltic Sea south to Romania.
That's the only thing it would do, is look really impressive, but gain them no more than they already have.
I don't think they'll waste the resources.
>>So what’s the reward system for China to destroy their best customer?<<
They will own the customer. Zero debt.
Sure they’re not training to take out us dirty unvaxxed Americans?
The chit show is now about the fact that the State is trying to hand Ukraine back to Russia in exchange for dropping “alliance” with China.
Nuland and Burns visited Moscow about this, but Putin doesn’t trust them nor needs Ukraine anymore because it is a hollowed-out chunk now where the children for 8 years do not study math at school but get indoctrinated that their country is in a crapper and they are poor because the Russians used to enslave them for 400 years and all such idiocy. China, on the other hand, over that period has become Russia’s main trading partner, displacing Europe, although you could barely see a thing made in China in Russia before 2013.
Lavrov told Blinken that after the Africanization of Eastern Europe by the US they are free to have it, so there is the escalation to make Russia reconsider the shift to China.
That’s Austin’s visit to Ukraine to reassure Nazi warmongers of American support and all sorts of escalations, like the Bayraktar strike in Donbas in gross violation of Minsk agreements, B1s doing mock bombings by the Russian borders in both Baltic and the Black Sea. US destroyers were sent to the Black Sea, Poland apeshit over the minor migrant crisis and the list goes on, including fake news of Russian troops massed on the Ukrainian border.
The biggest risk is that Ukraine might try to reconquest Donbas where Russian support might be needed to enforce the UN resolution making Minsk into international law.
I think the globalists are intentionally trying to lure Putin into it to repeat all the propaganda employed in the 2008 Georgian War (although the Tagliavini commission proved that it was a 100% Georgian aggression) to slap new sanctions and finally close Nord Stream II.
None of the above is going to work as expected though. If there won’t be NSII then there won’t be NG in Europe. The idiots claiming that there would be no choice but to pump through Ukraine aren’t paying attention. For one thing, Russia is increasing its LNG capacity there in the US they are mostly talking about it, and able to ship by sea, not being so dependent on Euro pipes as earlier. Second, it almost doubled the volume of gas pumped into China through the “Power of Siberia” pipe. Another pipe through Mongolia is under construction and another mega-pipe to China in the plans, which is without EU red tape non-existent in the Far East, might be constructed in three years from now.
What Europe hopes for is unknown. They have already allowed Polish and Lithuanian representatives to screw up EU gas regulations, making them uncomfortable for pipeline operators but favorable to LNG. That is not surprising because Poland and Lithuania built their own LNG terminals and bragged that soon they are going to have Russia and Germany by the short hairs.
How the EU allowed it is unknown because the existing American LNG couldn’t satisfy above 20% of their needs and the American failed to arrive at all because the price is higher in China.
” So what’s the reward system for China to destroy their best customer? Don’t understand.”Because race, ethnic/nationalist identity and aspirations always trump economic concerns? We are not merely consumer units, something the West has collectively forgotten. At the turn of last century experts used to make a point that WW1 was impossible because the European powers had too much to lose interns of mutual trade if war broke out. China may be devastated as the result of the conflict and they go back to the Mao way - the command economy, labor camps and ration cards. The have no qualms about brutally crushing any internal unrest with tanks. But if we cease to exist as the result of the conflict, they get to rebuild and expand in Asia and the Pacific. The only thing that would stop them is MAD and knowing we will not hesitate to use it.
“ Nobody is ever gong to nuke anybody in the future.”
Never is a very long time.
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Because eventually they'll develop a weapon much worse, like a biological weapon.
Probably, but it won't work. Putin's Russia is well aware of what Communist China is, and they must deal with them because, 1 Common Border, 2 China is a world power. Putin will be as careful as he can be and put Russia first. China will eventually turn on Russia, hopefully Russia will be as ready as she can be.
Nuland and Burns visited Moscow about this, but Putin doesn’t trust them nor needs Ukraine anymore...
True.
Lavrov told Blinken that after the Africanization of Eastern Europe by the US they are free to have it...
proving my point that all Russia has to do is wait out the collapse of Western Europe for the same reason without being tricked into a war.
None of the above is going to work as expected though. If there won’t be NSII then there won’t be NG in Europe.
Yes, and as you point out Russia can sell lots of gas to China.
Russia has all the options, Western Globalists have none.
Russia will win even if She does nothing, it'll just take longer.
“I don’t think they’ll waste the resources.”
I guess we’ll see.
Ok, then what happens to them? How is firing a nuke first going to make things better? It won't. They will be annihilated just the same. There is no scenario where firing a nuclear weapon first is advantageous.
Nuclear weapons are poker chips but no one has a winning hand and no one can call a bluff. Stalemate = Never used. Ever.
Not saying it will determine the victor, but I will say most countries that have nukes would try to use them before they would surrender to an enemy.
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