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8 dead at Travis Scott's Astroworld Festival in Houston ranged from age 14-27
Fox 12 Oregon ^ | 6 November 2021 | Jason Hanna, Maya Brown and Rosa Flores

Posted on 11/06/2021 10:23:51 PM PDT by Steely Tom

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To: Steely Tom

____ acting like _____.


61 posted on 11/08/2021 6:44:07 AM PST by fwdude
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To: Steely Tom

____ acting like _____.


62 posted on 11/08/2021 6:44:07 AM PST by fwdude
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To: LukeL

We had a venue in Dallas where stadium seating is around the outdoor stage and lawn seating beyond that. A lot of “lawn patrons” would still work their way to the edge of the stage. Went to two James Taylor concerts in the 90’s there, and never anything like this incident.

Once, when there was a major malfunction with the sound system, resulting in a prolonged delay to the start of the concert, Taylor himself came out and sat on the edge of the stage bantering with fans and signing autographs. Then he jumped DOWN into the crowd and mingled, among hundreds. No incidences whatsoever.

Guess the “complexion” of 99% of these fans.


63 posted on 11/08/2021 6:48:08 AM PST by fwdude
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To: riverrunner

In general, CPR for the healthcare provider will have compressions with BVM and some kind of airway management, for the layman just chest compressions.

I takes about 5 compressions before the blood starts moving. More harm is done by stopping and restarting compressions. Compressions done right actually move some air by itself.

I have done CPR on a few with no vitals. If you know what you are doing, have an AED handy, can manage the airway and the arrest is very recent there is a chance. If you don’t know what you are doing or if a few minutes have passed then the outcome is probably not going to be positive.

If the patent is suffering an infarction or maybe an OD then maybe, a trauma code in the field is not good and CPR is probably not much of a help.


64 posted on 11/08/2021 10:37:44 AM PST by fatboy
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In decades gone when I was active in EMS the 70’s and 80’s.

I performed CPR on 10 or so never was able to save one.

Mainly because our response time in rural northern Wis.

Easily pushed 20 minutes half an hour or longer

One tries their best but some times it is not enough.


65 posted on 11/08/2021 10:48:04 AM PST by riverrunner
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I think the survival rate is less than 10%. Unless the patient is in V-fib probably no hope anyway but unless you have a monitor you would not know. A medic can push drugs that might give a rhythm at least for a short time in an otherwise unviable patient.

A few years ago I responded as a volly firefighter for a patient involved in a lightning strike. I did chest compressions in the back of an ambulance while the medic secured an airway, shocked and pushed drugs. Probably 20 minutes to the hospital. We lingered in the ED and the hospital staff took over compressions, getting a rhythm then losing it again. After a while all of them were wore out so myself and another firefighter resumed compressions in the ED still wearing our bunker gear. The patient was airlifted to a better facility but passed a day later.

I had a co worker go into v-fib right after I handed him off to the medics. Prior to that I couldn’t detect a pulse (a-fib?) but he was still CAO. The damage at that point is done but you cannot do compressions on a patient that is still talking to you.

Most medic units today have automatic compression machines that do it perfectly and don’t get tired.


66 posted on 11/08/2021 11:43:06 AM PST by fatboy
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Rap concert eh? Doesn’t sound like anywhere I’d want to be.


67 posted on 11/08/2021 11:46:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: fwdude
Went to two James Taylor concerts in the 90’s there

Saw him last summer at SPAC, quite entertaining even if he's a big lib. I think most are. At least he kept politics out of it, unlike Santana et al

68 posted on 11/08/2021 11:53:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: LukeL

This music is all about jumping around, jumping up and down, for the participants. It just is that.

Report from ABC 13 Houston - Travis Scott promises Astroworld Festival attendees full refunds

Video includes footage of fans being in the crush near the front of the stage.

https://youtu.be/JXnYUWvlAbo


69 posted on 11/08/2021 9:13:32 PM PST by Texan4Life
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This music is all about jumping around, jumping up and down, for the participants. It just is that.

But did the bass drop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoUV7Q1C1SU


70 posted on 11/08/2021 9:31:27 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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