Posted on 10/07/2021 5:50:08 PM PDT by bitt
The state Church had always existed in Spain; he didn’t create it.
the traditional social values were exactly that: traditions. He also didn’t create them.
After the civil war he was determined to prevent the conditions that brought it to a head from remaining or being repeated. While preserving private property rights, he tried to give everyone a stake in the state (which would seem bizarre to an American until you realize we did the same with FDR - to counter the same leftist influences). We had our own labor troubles here, and President McKinley was assassinated by an anarchist.
For what its worth, Franco’s efforts in terms of the economic model paid off; today Spain still deals with the regional agitation which he also kept in check.
When she is elected President of Italy—she will lead Italexit movement with others (like Poland). She could be the end of the EU (German Empire). And yes, the trains will run on time.
No he didnt create them. Thats the point of conservatism, he did not innovate, he defended these traditions, he protected and preserved them. And he succeeded, for a few decades anyway.
It is weird for American conservatives to contemplate this, but the European welfare state was not, on the whole, an ideological issue. The Catholic church of the time was held to be the bastion of tradition, the furthest “right” one could be was to support the Church in its worldly powers. But the Church was always an agency of “welfare”, through charity and through state-church action. Rerum Novarum (1891) addressed this, explicit definition of the Catholic socio-political stand, which defined the ideology of the European right for the next century.
So which of these points are lefty in your opinion ?
Such things can be a good thing in relative small, homogenous countries, where everyone has more or less the same culture. It is a disaster for larger, multi-cultural countries.
They aren’t. A little leaven leavens the whole lump in all cases.
Her half-sister was also in politics and apparently a lot more controversial and confrontational: her aunt is Sophia Loren, so she got the melodramatic genes from both sides of the family. Rachele is from her father’s second marriage and is named after her grandmother, Mussolini’s wife. Their father was a jazz musician. I wonder how that worked out for him with a name like “Mussolini.”
None of the left-wing stuff on there is my opinion. Did you read it?
They want to raise “environmental” taxes on businesses to “fight carbon emissions”, are for equal pay for men and women (this appears in every communist constitution ever written), prefer less privatization of healthcare plus are for single-payer, are against sanctioning rogue states with authoritarian rule, are for banning plastic cutlery and plates, are for increasing national minimum wage, want to increase government spending on “public” transit (rather than encouraging private mass transit), are for increasing taxes on large “multi-national” companies, are for the EU subsidizing farmers, are against private operation of prisons, are for vaccine passports . . .
There’s more, but don’t tell me that hot mess isn’t left-wing and that having right-wing positions mixed in is not the slippery slope leftward
When the “Communist Manifesto” was published Marx was an unknown journalist, and the communists were a faction of weirdo radicals of no significance. It took the Paris Commune twenty years later to announce that they were a thing.
Rerum Novarum is not controversial in the church today, and it wasn’t so, it seems, at the time it was issued.
Yes. As far as I remember majority of those questions were related to immigration, eu, faggots, abortion etc. and it seems they are against EU turning into 4th Reich, against 3rd world invasion, LGBT nonsense etc.
Regarding the things you raised...
“are against sanctioning rogue states with authoritarian rule”
In this case it means Hungary and Poland. No kidding. There are many other things hidden between the lines over there.
“They want to raise “environmental” taxes on businesses to “fight carbon emissions” “
The “climate change” madness is a mandatory thing in the EU (and it's “taking off” in the US too) the question is who is going to cover the (huge) costs of “energy transition”. The big business pushing for this nonsense want to (as usual) reap the profits and push the costs upon the small guys. Tax them, let them taste that shit and then we will see how “green enthusiastic” they are.
“are for equal pay for men and women”
For the same job. Try to set different hourly rates for let's say male drivers and female drivers and they will destroy you. In America.
Besides, these days the concept of left wing and right wing is a bit outdated. Now it's rather globalists vs. non-globalists.
Poland an Hungary have not turned authoritarian FWICS. Red China is, however, and no mention is made of them.
I see you’re trying to deny and ignore the leftism in the BoI platform and use the “but America” red herring. This forum represents Americans who oppose the leftism foisted on us. No, the term is not outdated, and both “globalists” (who are out to destroy national identity) and certain nationalists are too much for socialism.
Good points; I’d add that the part of the demise of Christianity in the US over the past 60 years is due to government assuming many of the charitable roles handled by religious groups previously. The American nanny state is replacing the Catholic Church in particular in the areas of education, healthcare, and social services. Here in NJ, the Church infrastructure built up over a century and a half is swiftly contracting (and the membership is as well).
In Europe, Protestant-led Germany was a pioneer in creating a socialist state; workers there enjoyed many benefits that would gradually trickle down to those of other countries.
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