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So what is going on in Australia? View from an Australian Freeper
22nd September 2021 | Me

Posted on 09/21/2021 8:47:31 PM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: naturalman1975

Australia has about 44 alleged “covid” deaths per million. that is the most important stat to keep in mind.

Australia is pursuing a “zero covid” policy. why?

it is not a left/right thing. major parties are equally insane as regards covid.

all MSM is pretty much covid 24/7. get vaxxed is their constant message.

it is as if Australia is not allowed to declare the pandemic is over until some future date which will be decided elsewhere, so no-one ever talks of deaths; “cases” or “infections” and vaccines dominate the discourse.

natural immunity is NEVER mentioned.

therapeutics are NEVER mentioned. it is basically forbidden to mention ivermectin.

the police have long treated “climate” protesters who disrupt traffic for hours on end or damage property near the Federal Parliament building or coal facilities with kid gloves.

their treatment of anyone who dissents on masks or lockdowns is hostile by comparison.

sadly, a majority of Australians have rationalised it all, so the situation is unlikely to improve anytime soon.


41 posted on 09/21/2021 9:36:24 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: naturalman1975
When the pandemic ends, those states of emergencies will be lifted.

What makes you think the pandemic is going to end?

42 posted on 09/21/2021 9:39:00 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: naturalman1975

How can it end?


43 posted on 09/21/2021 9:39:03 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ChronicMA
how is the freedom of movement in Victoria?

At the moment very limited - it changes over time but we're still under pretty heavy restrictions - not the worst, they are slowly relaxing. Last time we didn't have any restrictions on movement in the state was about seven weeks ago.

In Melbourne, you can only leave home for certain reasons and if you do can only travel 10 kilometres without a special reason (it was 5 kilometres last week).

Most of the rest of the state is now unrestricted (but they were until this week) with exceptions for a few regional cities that have outbreaks.

Do they restrict movement between metro Melbourne and areas outside of the metro area?

Yes.

Do they lock down the entire state or just the region with new cases?

They've done both at different times. But if Melbourne gets locked down, it's always all of Melbourne - I'm 50 kilometres from most of the cases (I'm in south east Melbourne, they are more north and west, and we're treated as one block - some people are 100 kilometres from the infected regions but are technically in Melbourne when they really shouldn't be - their area only became classified as Melbourne at the start of this pandemic and exactly why is really not clear.)

44 posted on 09/21/2021 9:40:43 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Alberta, Canada has 2972 doctors, nurses and health workers that signed a letter that, effectively, called their government liars.
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And yet as of yesterday, the new guvmint mandate is that all restaurants and other businesses are required to ask for proof of immunization or a negative COVID-19 test result in the preceding 72 hours.... no ticky, no laundry.

Hard to believe the people of Alberta caved on this....I would have thought these people would have gone full Australian as opposed to just rolling over.


45 posted on 09/21/2021 9:40:54 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you! I always appreciate the real story without the media’s filters and spin all over it.

Stay well.


46 posted on 09/21/2021 9:42:49 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: MAGAthon
Australia is pursuing a “zero covid” policy. why?

Australia isn't pursuing a zero covid policy. Some states are, and to an extent they force that on the rest of the country.

it is not a left/right thing.

Yes, it is. The Labor states and Labor Premiers are the ones causing all the problems. The coalition Premiers and the Prime Minister are much more reasonable.

The rest of what you say has some truth to it, but it's a lot more complicated than I have time to go into right now, I'm afraid.

47 posted on 09/21/2021 9:43:24 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: freeandfreezing

Because pandemics always end.


48 posted on 09/21/2021 9:44:17 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: ifinnegan

I’m like ....same as you

We just do t accept govt interference at that level normally outside of WWII type circumstance


49 posted on 09/21/2021 9:45:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: naturalman1975

it is a bio-weapon from china and it escaped before they figured out how to release it. now it’s a flu. you can’t control a flu. it will flu you. the original sars was controlled. china sent this sucker everywhere on purpose. They sent contagious so called managers to inspect a pig processing plant in south Dakota to make sure it got everywhere.


50 posted on 09/21/2021 9:46:26 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: ifinnegan

At the moment - and this could change if a new strain of the virus appears or something else goes seriously wrong - Australia will be back to normal sometime next year in terms of the risk of disease.

Various things could stop that happening. But at the moment, that’s how it is trending.

When people stop dying of this disease at a much rate higher than seasonal flu, that’s pretty much what it means to end here.

Other countries may have different standards.


51 posted on 09/21/2021 9:46:52 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: kvanbrunt2

And splice the main brace.


52 posted on 09/21/2021 9:49:39 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: naturalman1975

Reading this article, the writer has given up their freedom in exchange for only 1000 deaths.

Re-read that...you gave up your freedom.

Game over!

Freedom is priceless.


53 posted on 09/21/2021 9:50:43 PM PDT by pacificus
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To: ProfessorGoldiloxx

Not lethal on its on?

Really

I know four folks under 50 no comorbidities who died

Healthy people

And they tried all the anecdotes touted here

I’m ultra high risk....I took plaquenil etc

It was nothing ....36 hours of phhelgm

Not so for the four dead I know

Started slow ....built steam ....nothing worked

Dead in 12-30 days...

Attacked of course lungs but also can spread to liver and kidneys

I thought it was a nothing burger a year ago...
Not anymore

That’s the rub

If it didn’t kil a few healthy folks nobody would care


54 posted on 09/21/2021 9:52:22 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: pacificus

I’ve given up nothing.

I fought for freedom.

I’d do it again if I thought the situation warranted it.

At the moment I don’t think it does.

This is my country. I know how it works. I know it will come through this.


55 posted on 09/21/2021 9:53:58 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you for that post. Nice to see local and well reasoned reports from the land down under.

Seeing the media be it left or right has a bit of sensationalism always. It sells.

Most are thinking here aus is a bellwether of what may happen here and are quite concerned about y’all.

Despite your reporting I still have those concerns.


56 posted on 09/21/2021 9:54:15 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them...God wins. Trump always wins. . )
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To: naturalman1975

Good job. I hated to see all the work you put into my Freepmail, only be seen by me. :)


57 posted on 09/21/2021 9:55:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: naturalman1975

I don’t think we had a media induced one like this though. Everyone in power is literally lieing or don’t know they are wrong.


58 posted on 09/21/2021 9:56:32 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them...God wins. Trump always wins. . )
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To: naturalman1975

“The actual number is currently 1,178 - America per capita has lost 44 times more people than Australia.”

You’re far too trusting of the gov’t. All those numbers are cooked. Research the flat-lining of flu cases in 20-21. Research the up-cycling of the PCR test - to hypersensitive levels. Research dying with Covid vs. of Covid. Look at the current low level of hospital bed use in the US on the CDC site.

It’s a bad virus, but only slightly worse than past flu seasons.

The same tactics could have been used in any recent flu season. Just show the dying flu victims in hospitals (90,000 in the US in 2018), pump the fear porn, prohibit effective trratment, and voila, a pandemic. Let’s lock’er down and vaccinate everyone.


59 posted on 09/21/2021 9:57:08 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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Thanks...you said “US is about 679,000 people” (covid deaths)

Well...THAT’S where it gets tricky...US had basically NO flu deaths, and the payments for covid hospitalization are incentivizing medical industry...and killing people. My 94 yr old mother in law died in Oct 2020. They said she had Covid....yeah, right. She had several other problems.... At .005% wonder what your flu and other deaths have been. Locker down for .005% seems outrageous. Not one of us gets out of here alive.


60 posted on 09/21/2021 9:57:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolyution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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