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CDC-funded study: In May, U.S. reached level that some experts say is 'herd immunity' against Covid-19
Sharyl Attkisson ^ | SEPTEMBER 12, 2021 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 09/18/2021 6:33:49 AM PDT by george76

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To: Grampa Dave

Understandable that those in high risk groups would seek the vaccines...in the 70s group myself with several risk factors that very well might not tolerate any of the offerings without serious outcome...been self quarantined since end of Jan 2020.

But the decision is my own as should everyone else be.

Stay well FRiend


81 posted on 09/18/2021 12:33:12 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Buttons12

More Americans die of drug overdoses per (each) year (70,000+) like fentanyl - than died in the entirety of the Vietnam War (58,000)..

https://www.drugabuse.gov/drug-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

The early doomsday predictions about the coronavirus were all wrong. Everything that justified the lock downs and the shutting down of our economy was wrong. We need to open this country back up…. ~Matt Margolis. May 22, 2020..

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/22/the-cdc-just-gave-us-the-biggest-reason-to-end-the-coronavirus-lockdowns-n417178


82 posted on 09/18/2021 1:18:49 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fireman15

“why are vaccinations required from people who have already had Covid and have much more effective resistance to the new strains”

I don’t know of any international clinical trials that determined prior infection provided more effective resistance to new strains. How would you design a trial for that? If a strain is about to appear, how can you test for it?

I think the natural immunity folks are mostly folks who desperately do not want to endure vax and see the natural immunity concept as their escape route. The data I have seen suggests re-infection is rare, but I don’t think there have been international clinical trials proving this and if you haven’t done trials, you know nothing.

From day one, testing has been difficult. Because the virus is so deadly, you can’t provide a volunteer with some test mechanism or behavior and then INTENTIONALLY INFECT them with the virus/mutation. It will never be approved. So instead you have the sample turned loose in society and draw some sort of tentative conclusion about whether or not they were truly exposed to the virus.

So a person vaxed . . . is turned loose and the numbers accumulated. You **could** do this with a previously infected person who recovered (provided you had a reliable database of such people, and I don’t think that exists) and gather the same data. You could do that, but who would pay for it? The vax maker is willing to pay because they can make money. Who would pay for a re-infection trial? Suppose it fails? And thus none have happened.

All evidence you think exists about this is someone took blood samples and looked for antibody titer in previously infected people. This is not a clinical trial. This doesn’t mean much. The Israelis did this with vax and several months time delay and are finding so many vaxed people getting infected that they need boosters — despite the fact those blood titers showed many antibodies still there. So finding natural antibody titers tells you nothing.

Don’t say previous infection provides superior resistance when you have no evidence of this. The only acceptable evidence is clinical trials and there have been none.


83 posted on 09/18/2021 1:22:37 PM PDT by Owen
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To: george76

That’s not enough. We need 100% vaccinations with weekly boosters, endless social isolation, masks, and never a possibility of exploring treatments or prophylaxis. Vaccines are the way, the truth, and the light.


84 posted on 09/18/2021 10:14:51 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Wpin

“Reality is after billions of doses serious side affects are nearly non-existent. I am sorry your relatives are having health issues...I will say a prayer for them and you. Get vaccinated..”.

You’re trying to minimize a serious problem with legitimate concerns.

How dare you tell people to get vaccinated! That should be a personal decision.

Who the hell do you think you are?


85 posted on 09/19/2021 9:14:51 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Antoninus

“This is the level of evil we’re dealing with in this country, even on a place like FR”.

BINGO!

No one has the right or moral authority to tell someone they should get vaccinated. especially these “vaccines”.


86 posted on 09/19/2021 9:18:18 PM PDT by laplata
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To: laplata

“You’re trying to minimize a serious problem with legitimate concerns.

How dare you tell people to get vaccinated! That should be a personal decision.

Who the hell do you think you are?”

I’m tired of seeing lues and misinformation about these wonderful vaccines that are incredibly safe and very effective. Grow up and get vaccinated.


87 posted on 09/20/2021 5:41:30 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Antoninus

Go back to Bitchute or Dr Quack Quack or Nurse No Know and leave the thinking to those who are able....


88 posted on 09/20/2021 5:44:47 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: cgbg

Many FReepers are in the same boat. https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3988541/posts?page=131#131


89 posted on 09/20/2021 5:47:11 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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