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These Americans Are So Fed Up With Portland And Sacramento They Want To Redraw State Borders
The Federalist ^ | 07/21/2021 | Tristan Justice

Posted on 07/21/2021 6:32:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/21/2021 6:32:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

unfortunately, the highway billboards telling visitors “Don’t Californicate Oregon”

did not work.


2 posted on 07/21/2021 6:37:01 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not created, they're excreted." Cicero 2000 years ago)
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To: SeekAndFind

The State of Jefferson was put on hold due to Pearl Harbor.
The Klamath Basin farmers have been screwed. (again)


3 posted on 07/21/2021 6:50:03 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m reasonably sure most of Norther Nevada would love to join too….the state could be as big as Texas….


4 posted on 07/21/2021 6:52:49 PM PDT by Hogblog
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know why people waste so much time with this nonsense. Getting the populations and government of three states and the Feds to agree to this is 100% not going to happen.


5 posted on 07/21/2021 6:59:57 PM PDT by ready2brd
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To: SeekAndFind

I have liked this idea for several decades.


6 posted on 07/21/2021 7:08:42 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 500 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Idaho with a coastline, what’s not to like?
(Except the transplanted Cali blue voters.)


7 posted on 07/21/2021 7:19:38 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: ready2brd
I don’t know why people waste so much time with this nonsense.

It's like the baseball "hot stove league" of old men in the winter in the town's one store sitting around the pot bellied stove and solving all of baseball's problems for the next spring.

Which, ahem, Free Republic often ends up being, no offense, about the future of the nation. We solve it all here and have to watch as others in DC screw it up yet again.

8 posted on 07/21/2021 7:20:03 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: faithhopecharity

2 of our employees are from Eastern oregon, Lagrande. Told us multiple times the county is so red, a lot of cars have Trump stickers, that whenever they park in Public places, they KNOW no one will vandalize them.


9 posted on 07/21/2021 7:40:03 PM PDT by max americana (FIRED LEFTARD employees at our office every election since 2008 and enjoyed seeing them cry.)
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We planned to retire there. Can’t now. Sad.


10 posted on 07/21/2021 8:20:55 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not created, they're excreted." Cicero 2000 years ago)
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To: faithhopecharity

Eastern Oregon is still Eastern Oregon. If you wanted to retire there previously…what changed? Eastern Oregon certainly has not.


11 posted on 07/21/2021 10:40:52 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: ready2brd

You make it seem too difficult. Federal Approval is not required for state boundary adjustments. The metropolitan dominated legislatures of the donor states might see it as a way to get rid of annoying rural conservatives.


12 posted on 07/21/2021 11:00:12 PM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: bigfootbob

Eastern Oregon is still subject to state laws and policies however. Them has changed. Much for the worse.


13 posted on 07/22/2021 12:13:55 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not created, they're excreted." Cicero 2000 years ago)
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To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
14 posted on 07/22/2021 6:00:51 AM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: faithhopecharity

True to some extent. Taxes and the like, but you have sheriffs and sane people who live their lives very much like people in states that still have citizens with common sense and work they hard to protect their constituents from abuse by the urban liberals.

I live behind the curtain in the Soviet of Washington so I know a bit about living and actually thriving in an occupied and oppressed state. I live in a small conservative city in a conservative county on the beach at the Pacific Ocean.

According to the CATO Institute we have the worst governor in all 57 states 😉 and probably one of the most corrupt state attorneys general too, but they can kiss our asses, we are a 2nd amendment sanctuary county and we pretty much live our lives completely different from the people east of me in the Pugetopolis region.

I’m not going to allow the urban liberals any influence on my day to day life other than policies we can’t escape, mostly taxation issues. Believe it or not, even the majority mental liberals in this state vote on tax relief initiatives when given the chance. (We have citizen initiatives in this state)


15 posted on 07/22/2021 6:44:24 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: no-s

Wrong. Article IV, Section III of the Constitution spells it out.

It absolutely requires both houses of Congress to approve boundary changes, as you are essentially creating a new state. There is no question or ambiguity on this.


16 posted on 07/22/2021 7:42:45 AM PDT by ready2brd
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Article IV, Section III of the Constitution spells it out.

You have mis-informed yourself. RTFM:
Clause 1
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
Clause 2
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Clause 1 does not apply because no new State will be formed. Clause 2 authorizes Congressional power, but explicitly does not make it an absolute authority.

It is conceivable that the Compact Clause of Article 1 could apply. However the Supreme Court has held that entering a notice into the Congressional Record is sufficient, and having the affected state delegations stand and propose the resolution is sufficient. Federal affairs would be expedited by act of Congress, but this might not be necessary if the matter was resolved just prior to the decennial Census. If the net federal power (i.e. Congressional delegations) of the states involved are not increased the matter is a wash before Congress because the Federal Government will have no claim, the territory will still remain in the United States, and no other state will have standing to challenge it. Of course someone will bring suit, but there is precedent.

17 posted on 07/22/2021 8:50:21 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: no-s

You are wrong again. You literally posted where a State cannot be formed by parts of existing states without Congress approval.

It is 100% a new state. There is not a single credible source that would agree with you


18 posted on 07/22/2021 7:37:54 PM PDT by ready2brd
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To: ready2brd

It’s people like that make my sense of hope dwindle. You are a small minded pissant.


19 posted on 07/22/2021 7:46:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: faithhopecharity

I attended 1 year at WSU eastern WA before heading to Stanford. Eastern WA is like small town America. I plan to move to FL 2 years from now. not to retire but for my own sanity. Hopefully Desantis will still be governor..


20 posted on 07/22/2021 8:45:27 PM PDT by max americana (FIRED LEFTARD employees at our office every election since 2008 and enjoyed seeing them cry.)
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