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Chinese government ships enter Japanese waters near Senkakus
Japan Times ^ | 7/10/2021

Posted on 07/10/2021 4:58:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

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To: roadcat
This time around, there won't be western powers coming to the rescue of China.

You wanna bet? The new world order corporatists who sold out America will absolutely order jao xiden to intervene to save their Apple and Nike factories.

41 posted on 07/11/2021 5:15:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: roadcat

The CCP kept their powder dry during WW2 and let the Nationalists fight. Afterwards, the CCP defeated the Nationalists and the Nationalists escaped to Taiwan.

The CCP are opportunists. They don’t want to fight. They want everyone to surrender without a fight. They will keep pushing the line to see what they can get away with.

I think Japan needs to confiscate the Chinese warships. If they resist, sink them.

Make China think twice about violating everyone’s territorial waters and airspace.


42 posted on 07/11/2021 7:07:20 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: I-ambush

Good question !


43 posted on 07/11/2021 7:16:52 AM PDT by Reily
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To: PIF

I saw that article before and the Chicoms are building a Rebuilt Midway Class Carrier Design with EMALS onboard a non-nuclear ship (good luck with that and one power plant would have to be dedicated to the EMALS alone) which would alone would make the ship noisy and easily detectable by a Sub.

The J-35 like the J-15 engines are completely underpowered for carrier aviation and like the article said is based n the now obsolete SU-33, plus the engines are huge which means in turn and burn combat they would burn white hot thus making them sidewinder bait!

In reality the Chicoms are at best a regional carrier aviation power with limited power projection reach. They have no carrier based refueling aircraft that we know of(most modern carrier based strike aircraft take off on partially fueled and hit the tanker at about 20k after leaving the deck) and are at least 2 generations behind India and Japan in carrier based aviation experience. 3-4 behind the U.S. U.K. and France. Even Brazilian ran 2 old Flush Deck Carriers more successful than the Chinese have at present.

The Chinese have had to resort to building islands in the South China Sea to project its carrier based aviation beyond 300 miles they heavily depend on land based tankers to refuel it’s carrier based fighters once they are airborne.


44 posted on 07/11/2021 9:56:19 AM PDT by Trueblackman (I'm positive that Slow Joe mistakes paint thinner for coffee each morning. )
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To: Trueblackman

Ha! Good to know, plus the planes on the current carriers are more or less limited by low payload and fuel because they are launched under their own power - limited to defensive or short range attack roles.


45 posted on 07/11/2021 10:26:31 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Tai_Chung
I think Japan needs to confiscate the Chinese warships. If they resist, sink them.

No, that isn't likely. Too much at risk for both nations. Japan just needs to have a show of force with Japanese naval ships, and push back. The first shot by either side would lead to a war, and I don't think China or Japan wants to risk that for the Senkaku islands. China will concentrate on invading Taiwan first (which may lead to Japan intervening on behalf of Taiwan).

46 posted on 07/11/2021 12:05:32 PM PDT by roadcat
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Exactly when I was a Deck Ape (NAVY term of endearment for Flight Deck Workers for the woke Conservatives here)on both my Carriers and we would fly missions over Iraq and Bosnia. We would send the strike package up fully loads and 3/4 full of JP-5 to meet up with the Air Force KC-10s to top off because most of our strike package would burn up half their fuel waiting in line for an open Catapult.

The Chicoms would have to build similar fuel bridges to be effective outside of a 500 mile radius. India has the Indian Ocean locked down outside of Chinese Allies in Pakistan and Iran. China is making some in roads in Africa, but as far as a fully capable Blue Water NAVY that is 2 or 3 generations away plus like the old Soviet Union the Chicoms suck at Amphibious Assault Warfare. Taking a bunch of Army Conscripts and calling them Marines ain’t the answer.

The Chicoms also have a central command structure among their ranks unlike the U.S. were if a Commanding Officer is killed in combat command of the unit can fall quickly to the most Senior NCO who usually has some command in the field qualities and training,

The difference between the Chicoms and other militarizes is the Chicome try to overwhelm you with numbers since the quality is lacking.


47 posted on 07/11/2021 1:07:38 PM PDT by Trueblackman (I'm positive that Slow Joe mistakes paint thinner for coffee each morning. )
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To: The Duke

😂👍


48 posted on 07/13/2021 6:06:50 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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