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Will Eliminating Standard Tests Really Reduce Racial Disparities In Education?
JONATHAN TURLEY. org ^ | 5-31-2021 | JONATHAN TURLEY

Posted on 05/31/2021 1:59:19 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Admitting kids (of whatever demographic group) with significantly lower academic qualifications leads (with rare exceptions) to one of two results: those kids end up at the bottom of their classes when grades come out, if they’re taking rigorous subjects, or those kids migrate to bullshit majors where everybody gets good grades since standards in those fields are virtually non-existent.

Or alternatively grade inflation across the board proceeds to the point where the average grade is an “A-” (that’s basically Harvard, by the way).


41 posted on 05/31/2021 2:42:42 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: blam

Will Eliminating Standard Tests cover for black failure ?


42 posted on 05/31/2021 2:43:55 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Hambone 1934

Not long ago there was a story about a young man who had, IIRC, passed 3 courses (presumably non-PE courses) in the 3 previous years ... which for THAT school was good enough to place him in the upper half of his class.

This got leaked and only THEN did it seem like they were finally gonna not socially promote him and graduate him!

That kind of school wide performance is not possible except that the school staff themselves just aren’t worth shit. Actual teachers teaching rather than civil servants babysitting should easily do much better.


43 posted on 05/31/2021 2:46:32 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: blam

The state is to a large extent wasting money on students that don’t graduate.

The state university should screen for success by all reasonable means.

Blacks are about 6% of California’s population. To have equal representation in a ~280,000 student system means about 18,000 black students in the system and admitting about 4,500 black students a year.

If California can’t annually produce 13,500 black high school graduates likely to graduate from the University of California system then California high school education needs a shake-up.

I would think that black families that rent and have a smart high school student might move to California to try to get in on the free UC tuition deal.

Perhaps UC graduates who teach in CA high schools should try to set up high school UC prep/recruitment clubs.


44 posted on 05/31/2021 2:47:34 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: blam

Everyone will be equally ignorant.


45 posted on 05/31/2021 2:47:48 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: butlerweave

No another reason will be found for blaming whites (and to some extent Asians.).

There will only be change when they acknowledge the change starts with themselves ! Right now given all the liberal enablers, it hard to believe that will ever happen.


46 posted on 05/31/2021 2:48:57 PM PDT by Reily
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To: blam

The goal seems to be making college enrollments look like the Baltimore Public School system. After the low end of the curve drops on or is limited to competitive sports teams, the remaining students can get on with life.

More money coming in, better TV exposure for the football and basketball teams, what more could you ask for? Almost sounds like Notre Dame.


47 posted on 05/31/2021 2:49:17 PM PDT by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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To: Cuttnhorse

Also good comments and I would add to yours that the minorities will blame white conservatives when the fault lies totally in the democrat camp.

They promote affirmative action. They promote giving loans to people that will never earn enough to repay them. They promote the underhanded thinking that blacks are incapable of helping themselves. They promote believing the unbelievable.


48 posted on 05/31/2021 2:51:21 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: The Louiswu
The gov will then require they be employed or they will be given a universal basic income and do nothing with their lives.

Would that it were true. They will be made into a guerrilla army within the United States, attacking Americans and American infrastructure whenever possible.

49 posted on 05/31/2021 2:54:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: blam

Education is racist! We must all be ignorant and stupid.


50 posted on 05/31/2021 2:55:53 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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“Asian kids shows a 74.4 percent proficiency”

In NYC there are ‘Korean schools’ that teach their students the students’ next grade level material. ‘Korean school’ students study their subject matter twice.


51 posted on 05/31/2021 2:57:24 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: blam

Hey, why not just round Pi to 3.14?


52 posted on 05/31/2021 3:03:14 PM PDT by myerson (It ain't brain surgery.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Too many chiefs not enough indians?


53 posted on 05/31/2021 3:13:15 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: blam

A receding tide lowers all boats.


54 posted on 05/31/2021 3:16:50 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts. )
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To: Rurudyne
You are talking about a black student in the Augusta Fells Savage Institute of Visual Arts in west Baltimore. His transcripts show that he passed just three classes in four years, earning 2.5 credits. But yes, he was in the middle of his grade in terms of his overall 0.13 GPA. He was ranked #62 out of 120 students.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/baltimore-student-fails-classes-top-half

55 posted on 05/31/2021 3:25:33 PM PDT by DeweyCA ( )
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To: blam
Indeed, education officials like Alison Collins, vice president of the San Francisco Board of Education, have declared meritocracy itself to be racist.
I love it when they write themselves into Orwell's "1984":

"Merit is racist. Racism is not."
56 posted on 05/31/2021 3:26:09 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: blam

It’s evident that Mr. Turley has never taught a Freshmen class where nearly 3/4s of them fail at putting a proper paragraph together as it directly relates to them writing academic papers.....


57 posted on 05/31/2021 3:35:19 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Don Corleone

Nope. It will just make all of our kids that much dumber, which by the way, is the democrat’s plan. Dumb people are easier to control.


58 posted on 05/31/2021 3:36:30 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: DeweyCA

Arts student?

Heh ... didn’t catch that earlier.

Where once artist may have needed to know things to make art now all they need to know is how to barf on a canvas and sell it for thousands.


59 posted on 05/31/2021 3:40:38 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: norwaypinesavage

My son is a Senior Engineering student at USI. They have had an Engineering Dept. for only a bit over 5 years but it’s tough as nails.

Only slightly over 40% will end up with a degree and practically no one accomplishes it in 4 years. Needless to say it’s graduates are in high demand.


60 posted on 05/31/2021 3:42:37 PM PDT by traderrob6
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