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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (16 May, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 16 May 2021 | CDC

Posted on 05/16/2021 3:36:19 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: 9YearLurker

Have you ever actually used VAERS? There is no method to “kick back” or “reject” reports. It’s basically Wikipedia. You submit a form and the form goes into the database. It’s not like it’s a loan application that someone is sitting there reviewing. You fill out several fields and click “Submit”. There’s no one there to tell you “no, you can’t submit that”. It’s a passive reporting system, meaning its entire purpose and function is to collect reports submitted by anyone, anywhere, any time.


421 posted on 05/18/2021 9:16:01 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

why should anyone believe anything you say when you refuse to live by the words of your own tagline?...


422 posted on 05/18/2021 9:16:51 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal

Why should anyone believe anything you copy and paste?


423 posted on 05/18/2021 9:18:27 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: heavy metal

424 posted on 05/18/2021 9:19:54 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

he’s already been here for a while...

his name is 2aProtectsTheRest...


425 posted on 05/18/2021 9:23:26 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I take Dr Fleming’s (and apparently other doctors’) reports over yours. Especially after you were flat out wrong and nasty about your previously claim re: the nature of required reporting.

And no, I have never used it.


426 posted on 05/18/2021 9:24:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: palmer

“The problem is that the normal antibodies would have faded by now.”

How do you know? What makes this disease magical — besides politics?


427 posted on 05/18/2021 9:25:13 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence - Prof. Dean Alfange)
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To: 9YearLurker
"And no, I have never used it."

Then go use it. See for yourself. Then maybe you can find some better information sources because the ones you're relying on now clearly aren't working.

"Especially after you were flat out wrong and nasty about your previously claim re: the nature of required reporting."

At no point was I "nasty", nor was I wrong. I posted a screenshot and a link to the reporting requirements showing that healthcare providers are required to report serious AEs (including death) "regardless of causality". Linked to the page and even screenshotted it for you. That isn't nasty. That's helping you learn.

428 posted on 05/18/2021 9:28:31 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You’re a clown. You claimed doctors were required to report any death, including getting hit by a car, as a vaccine-related death.

I am done with this idiotic exchange.


429 posted on 05/18/2021 9:37:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
People only report that which they believe is vaccine-related...

Not sure why you think that. The CDC is clear in their instructions to healthcare providers:

"Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause."

... there were more VAERS deaths reported in the first four months of this year, after the Covid vaxxes than for all the vaxxes administered in the last 20 years combined.

Not surprising considering how quickly 150M doses of a new vaccine were administered. What do you think of the fact that despite so many shots there aren't any deaths attributed to the vaccine?

Besides, the CDC already anticipated this question from people who don't understand VAERS:

"The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines."

430 posted on 05/18/2021 9:43:53 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: 9YearLurker

They are. I linked to the document that says they are. I provided a screenshot of the document that says they are.

You can choose not to accept reality, but reality continues to exist regardless.


431 posted on 05/18/2021 9:46:21 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: semimojo; 9YearLurker

Adding to that:

Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html


432 posted on 05/18/2021 9:48:38 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
"6%" on your part is

STRAW MAN

You obviously aren't an angler...
433 posted on 05/18/2021 11:51:45 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Body is not fighting off an infection so antibodies drop below detectable levels.
434 posted on 05/18/2021 2:45:18 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

Excellent post. Thank you!


435 posted on 05/18/2021 3:55:04 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: bagster

Looked it up.

An interesting read on the 1976 swine flu scare and response issues is below, and there are many others out there.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200918-the-fiasco-of-the-us-swine-flu-affair-of-1976

From what I have looked up, since you won’t provide a reference to your data, it was killed because it (1) wasn’t necessary, (2) got a lot of bad press that was inaccurate, and (3) certainly could have caused rare harm, which because of (1) very well could have been inappropriate. See reference above, additional references available via simple google search “1976 swine flu pandemic fiasco” for starters. Nothing about stopping at 25 that I could find, but it is a nice easy number...

Even more interesting to me, is that the vaccine of issue then was not a new tech like mRNA. It was the same tech currently in use at the time. They even had to not slaughter the roosters as usual to avoid a delay in production.

The change in corporate insurance carries coverage is also interesting with regard to the indemnification changes at the time. Same tech, change in insurance provider risk philosophy. Special thanks and shout out to the ambulance chaser type lawyers out there... (Side note - next time I get hurt doing something stupid, I think I am going to sue all lawyers for not having already sued and made safe whatever stupid thing I did, but I digress...)

In the end, the scare around a Spanish flu level impact pandemic was wrong, since that was avian instead of swine. Unfortunately at that time the tech didn’t allow for the level of precision available today.

Thanks for pointing, well, not pointing, but peaking my interest to learn more on the subject.

Not saying you are lying, but still have not found a source for the 25 deaths caused the program to be shut down reference you claim.

Might be true, seems like it would be easy to reference like the summary of the history of that event that I referenced, but to each their own I guess...


436 posted on 05/18/2021 4:48:06 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: !1776!
From what I have looked up, since you won’t provide a reference to your data,

You learn better by researching for yourself. You then take ownership of the information.

Good on you for putting in the work. I'll make a Qtard out of you yet.

p.s. The '25' is referenced in the first link I provided. The one by the Dr.


437 posted on 05/18/2021 8:06:18 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Hmm. Reposting the reference is too much work? You apparently did it before, should be simple.

Good on you for recognizing when its time to tuck tail and avoid substance.


438 posted on 05/18/2021 8:38:53 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: !1776!
Hmm. Reposting the reference is too much work? You apparently did it before, should be simple.

It seems to be, if you can't do it, lazy ass. I tire of educating morons. Its time you know nothings stepped up and put in the work. Consider this a training session, of the Q variety.

Good on you for recognizing when its time to tuck tail and avoid substance.

Bro, you're lucky I even talk to you as a human being. People like you usually get the treatment.

But I'm in a good mood. Consider yourself blessed.

You're welcome.


439 posted on 05/18/2021 8:52:44 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

LOL!

Your posts are so useless, you won’t even step up to the plate on a simple item you doubled down on...

Your hissy fit about me being lucky that you respond to me like a human is one of the funniest things I’ve seen posted in a long time! It almost seems like you think I or anyone cares about what you post in any way shape or form.

I’m having fun with this - I get a chuckle out of going back and forth with nitwits that talk smart, but are never able to back it up.

Thanks for the laugh - bring on the “treatment” your good mood spared me from nitwit...

Honestly - thanks for the laughs, I sincerely hope you are not as much of a whack job as your posts imply...


440 posted on 05/19/2021 5:56:55 PM PDT by !1776!
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