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EXCLUSIVE: TX Gun Rights Says Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick Added ‘Poison Pill’ to Constitutional Carry Bill
The National File ^ | May 6, 2021 | TOM PAPPERT

Posted on 05/06/2021 11:37:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: JD_UTDallas

“That benefit alone especially when buying multiple firearms at once is worth every penny of the LTC costs if there are any at all.”


That is why I will renew my LTC when it comes near to expiration - that, plus reciprocity in many other states, something not possible if you haven’t gone through the LTC process. Frankly, every state should be Constitutional carry, and no license should be required anywhere so long as you are a citizen...but this is the world in which we live.

Oh, and if it is true that Dan Patrick inserted a poison pill, then politically speaking he is a dead man walking. Texas has a fantastic reputation regarding firearms laws, but the reality of our actual laws does not even come close to that reputation - and people like Patrick are responsible for that. Time for him to go, not just because he has been a huge softy on the 2A for his entire career, but to serve as a warning to the other chicken-shit Republicans in the state.


41 posted on 05/06/2021 2:28:21 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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To: DesertRhino

Imagine what it would be if the legislature met every year.


42 posted on 05/06/2021 2:58:58 PM PDT by bgill
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To: JohnBrowdie
You didn’t click “next”. You need to keep clicking “next” to get to the picture of the girl with the big hooters.

WAit, what was the topic of this thread?

43 posted on 05/06/2021 3:05:29 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Meatspace
When you put a sportscaster in charge of your state legislature.

Different Dan Patrick, idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Patrick_(sportscaster)

44 posted on 05/06/2021 3:05:51 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: Mr.FixIt

“Different Dan Patrick, idiot.”

Patrick started his first radio job in 1968 at the age of 18. After college, in 1977, he became a television broadcaster at WNEP-TV in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Patrick later held a similar position at WTTG in Washington, D.C., before he became the lead sportscaster with KHOU-TV in Houston.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Patrick_(politician)

You may want to Fix it.


45 posted on 05/06/2021 3:11:32 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: JD_UTDallas
That benefit alone especially when buying multiple firearms at once is worth every penny of the LTC costs if there are any at all.

Dana Loesch interviewed Lt. Dan last week. He said under the Constitutional Carry bill as approved by the Texas House, the cost for LTC would be $0, down from the current $40 IIRC. He is fully on board with this bill, the detractors in these threads and in the media are stirring up schiff trying to damage his popularity IMO.

46 posted on 05/06/2021 3:14:34 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: Meatspace
Yes, but that is not today's Dan Patrick sportscaster, two differnt people. No repair required:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Patrick_(politician)

47 posted on 05/06/2021 3:18:58 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: Mr.FixIt

Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is a former sportscaster.

The other Dan Patrick is a sports talk show host.


48 posted on 05/06/2021 3:28:20 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace
Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is a former sportscaster.

Former sportcaster, around 35 years ago. You typed it as if he were a sportscaster today. Should I refer to you as a frycook because you were one 35 years ago?

49 posted on 05/06/2021 3:34:40 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: Mr.FixIt

He also owned a bar in the Rice Village. Spent some time in that bar while in high school.


50 posted on 05/06/2021 3:45:07 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: JD_UTDallas

“I could care less what you think. Having to demonstrate basic skills to do an activity in public is well established law. Driver licences for one. No one says you can’t own a car you have to demonstrate proper skills to use it in public roads. It’s not up to you, if Texas passes this a lot of people will vote out those who do it’s political calculus do they think the majority of Texans want every Bubba and gang banger carrying without a background check or proficiency test. From my large group of professional and social cohorts who are all Veterans combat vets at that, current and former law enforcement myself included in both those categories, Leo’s of Federal and local, and business owners NONE of them want constitutional carry not a single one. The process in Texas is not onerous and keeps people who lack the skills or background to carry legally in public. We will just out vote you types and do on a regular basis.”

The sorry part is you probably will out vote us. Just for the record, I am retired military and I was a reserve police officer (with a POST certificate, meaning I have been through the police academy) and I was a deputy sheriff. What’s the difference in your opinion and Biden’s opinion on guns? If you can restrict the carrying or ownership of guns, what’s logically wrong with what he wants? It’s just a matter of opinion. Once again, what part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand? You can’t defend your position logically. You just can’t. And for someone who “could care less what you think”, you just devoted an entire paragraph to what I think. Oh yeah, I probably am your “Bubba”. You do realize FreeRepublic is a conservative site, right? Not to sound too cliche, there’s no constitutional right to drive a car.


51 posted on 05/06/2021 3:47:35 PM PDT by suthener
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To: eastexsteve

“Even if you don’t know which end goes “boom” and will likely shoot yourself or a bystander, you can carry in public.”

Hasn’t been a problem in Arizona.....


52 posted on 05/06/2021 3:55:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Yo-Yo

““Now, it looks like Patrick may have successfully placed a poison pill in an amendment to Constitutional Carry, in hopes it would cause the House to kill the bill by a point of order.”

It this is accurate, Patrick will never win an election again.


53 posted on 05/06/2021 3:59:12 PM PDT by cpdiii (Texan Coonass Cane Cutter Deckhand Roughneck Geologist Pilot Phamacist. CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR. )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Your issues just haven’t BEEN issues in Arizona. Since 2010. Other states include:

Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota (residents only; concealed carry only), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.


54 posted on 05/06/2021 4:01:43 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Meatspace
He also owned a bar in the Rice Village. Spent some time in that bar while in high school.

Nice zip code. I have my own issues with Lt. Dan but he is lightyears away better than dirtbag Dewhurst that he replaced.

Under Lt. Dan, Texas now has Campus Carry for LTC citizens, strengthened castle doctrine, castle doctrine extended to automobiles and probably a few other 2nd Amendment strengthening issues that I don't recall right now.

See if you can find Dana Loesch's interview with him last week, he explains why he does not put forth bills if he doesn't think they will pass both houses and be signed by Abbott. In the interview, he said he met with the Houston Police Officers Association and a Sheriffs association (don't think he said which one) because they opposed the CC bill as written in the House for a couple of reasons, not in it's entirety.

Among other things, they wanted a minimum manditory 5 year sentence for those convicted of crimes commited with a firearm - very good IMO. He listened to their requests and requested that some or all of them be included in the revised bill. That's how the process should work. Think of it, not only might we get CC but criminals convicted of comitting crimes with a firearm actually getting a manditory 5 year minimum sentence regardless of what dirtbag Rat judges want.

Texas still has its problems but Abbott and Lt. Dan are definitely chipping away at 2nd Amendment restrictions in the state. I fully support them for that.

If he's lying about wanting CC to pass, he's sure working hard get it passed. He's not perfect but he's a very solid conservative Lt. Governor.

Sorry about that rude comment, I get tired of people mixing up the two up and your comment struck me as if you had them mixed up.

55 posted on 05/06/2021 4:25:03 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: Mr.FixIt

He is far better that Dewhurst and far less personal baggage.

He would speak at our high school sports banquets and treated all good when even at his bar. At least he did not throw us out on the street.

Yes, Rice Village is a nice area and was far away from my home turf.

Dan is a good guy, but back in the 80’s I would have never thought he would end up being the most powerful man in the state.


56 posted on 05/06/2021 4:48:55 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Mr Rogers
“Even if you don’t know which end goes “boom” and will likely shoot yourself or a bystander, you can carry in public.” Hasn’t been a problem in Arizona.....

..yet. It's coming. I was told long ago when I first got my instructors certification that the likelihood of seeing someone shoot themselves on the range was akin to winning the lottery. Since then, I've witnessed it twice. One guy died on the scene. I still haven't won the lottery.

57 posted on 05/06/2021 7:32:08 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Trinity5
And you say this based on what facts or statistics? Or you just spouting stupidity for the sake of it?

I don't think there is anything "stupid" about firearm safety. Maybe you think it's a joke though. People accidentally discharge firearms all the time. Sometimes, they accidentally shoot themselves. I've witnessed it twice. One guy died.

58 posted on 05/06/2021 7:35:43 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

“..yet. It’s coming.”

Ummm....we’ve had permitless carry for 11 years now. 7+ million population. Just how long do we need to be successful for Texas to figure this one out?


59 posted on 05/06/2021 7:36:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Yo-Yo

Neither Dan Patrick nor Gov. Greg Abbot want this law, so they conspired to put a poison pill in the legislation so they could claim they supported the original legislation, but couldn’t sign the bill with the poison pill amendments. This is so typical of Patrick and Abbot.

Abbott and Patrick are despised by conservative Texans.


60 posted on 05/06/2021 7:37:44 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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