Posted on 04/23/2021 8:15:35 AM PDT by NobleFree
“The standard is going to be the same as the objective signs of intoxication relied on by the Commonwealth in a DWI prosecution where there is no breath or blood test admissible.”
That makes sense. There are many things besides alcohol (like prescription drugs, legally or illegally used) that would impair people’s driving. Also cases where testing is refused, or results get disallowed.
What do you think about mewzilla’s point about “the difficulties and costs associated with getting pothead drivers off the roads”?
Does marijuana legalization present particular practical DUI challenges to Law Enforcement?
People who engage in recreational chemistry of any kind are losers.
A defensible point of view. But illegality of marijuana hasn't stopped losers from engaging in that form of recreational chemistry.
I haven't seen evidence that those have become worse in states with legalized pot like Colorado.
And if physical and mental health are properly addressed by banning things, alcohol and tobacco must go - and probably fatty foods too.
It is - yet nobody is suggesting we ban those drugs.
We had that before legalization. And new users will people who before legalization avoided use because it was illegal, so who can be expected to continue to avoid DUI because it remains illegal.
Gee, just in time for the upcoming election.
People who engage in recreational chemistry of any kind are losers.
A defensible point of view. But illegality of marijuana hasn't stopped losers from engaging in that form of recreational chemistry.
The illegality of homicide and pedophilia hasn't stopped people from engaging in that either, but that doesn't mean it should be tolerated, much less promoted.
Should alcohol recreational chemistry not be tolerated?
And two-thirds of homicides are solved, because that crime has actual victims who act to avoid and resist the crime - whereas recreational chemists willingly seek out their chemicals and act to hide any violation of the law.
The Stupid Party should get on the pro-liberty and electorally popular side of this issue.
No question that it's possible to do legalization wrong. But alcohol taxes haven't generated a significant black market in that drug - so it can be done right.
I don’t have a problem with legalization per se. The problem is it is never JUST about legalizing marijuana. Marijuana legalization is always accompanied by a panoply of leftist social programs like reparations to “communities most impacted by the drug war” (whites arrested for marijuana possession are on their own) and defunding the police.
That does seem to be common. But it's not like they'd drop those ideas if legalization failed.
There is also the fact that California’s roads are still riddled with potholes and her schools remain dead last in the nation. Wherever the marijuana money’s going it ain’t going back to We the People. They promised us the moon in order to get us nonusers on board and so far have failed to deliver.
Tax revenue, and the promise of its responsible use, shouldn't be any conservative's reason to support legalization; it's about treating adults like adults, and taking sales out of criminal coffers.
They've made it fairly simple here in Colorado. A test now exists, akin to a breathalyzer, that can detect recently smoked pot.
But, truth be told, I'd rather be on the road with a bunch of stoners than a bunch of alcoholics. Stoners are always at 10 & 2, doing the speed limit and driving as though every set of headlights in the rear view is a cop car.
The IQ rate in the U.S. has been steadily dropping the past few years.
China is smiling.
Evidence? (No, "Google it" is not evidence.)
Note that marijuana has been widely used in the U.S. for several decades.
What does this have to do with “equity”?
I guess this is it: "provides a clean slate to those with prior convictions, and reinvests in the communities harmed by over-criminalization".
Weird, I know.
Absolutely unbelievable response. If you don’t understand the scale of taxes collected by these 8 states and how small pot taxes are as a percent, I wonder what else confuses you.
[me:] Compared to what?
[Dave W:] If you don’t understand the scale of taxes collected by these 8 states and how small pot taxes are as a percent
So pot taxes are a small percentage of total tax revenue. What of it?
“Virginia is another state compromising the health and safety of its citizens by legalizing a gateway drug”
Fallacy. For SOME cannabis is a gateway to harder drugs. That’s because the effect of cannabis doesn’t satisfy their need to feel the way they think they want to feel. Usually driven by brain inflammation due to a crappy diet.
For others it’s not at all. I have been using cannabis daily since 2015 & I have the same about of interest in doing other drugs that I did when I started using marijuana: NONE!
Florida has had legal medical marijuana since 2016. None of the naysayer predictions have come true. Dispensaries are clean & safe where we live, not “drug corners” as was predicted. No more or less people are driving under the influence here than before medical cannabis was legalized.
It’s important to remember Colorado’s experience does not = every state’s experience.
Agreed!
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