The political calculus on the gun issue has changed

The Hill, via MSN ^ | April 4, 2021 | Bill Scneider

[skimbell]

I'm starting to become a bit skeptical concerning a “shortage”.
There are outlets on the internet that list ammunition-any caliber and any amount that you want- as “in stock”.
The price is ridiculous, but if you're willing to pony up the cash you can have all the ammo you want.
That is not a shortage.
That smells like an operation.

[glimmerman70]

We did not continue to buy all we could get. We did it for the day. We had both bought 22 target pistols and were shooting weekly. So we went and bought what we could get so we could continue to shoot. Never once did I buy a 25 dollar box and sell it. Not for 75 bucks or for anything. Actually gave some to friends for self defense. After the surge was done we bought more to replenish our supply. Most are buying more than they need. But how much is to much. How many rounds would you like to have for each firearm you have.

[hadaclueonce]

I will die with my Ka-Bar in my hand before I buy a bullet from Cheaper Than Dirt.

[backwoods-engineer]

Since you’re advising them on how to “make people comply”, why don’t you join them, and try it out at my place. You had better pack a lunch, Fed stooge.

[SuperLuminal]

These numbers are meaningless unless you can find some Americans willing to use them when the time comes (as it has for many decades)...

Right now, the way the American sheeple are cringing in obeisance to our communist rulers, I believe no one will show up at the bridge or green...
Paul and William can just leave their horses in the barn...

Guns or no guns, it appears that the only thing Americans can be counted on is to:
Bow down!... Obey!... Snitch!...

[marktwain]

I'm starting to become a bit skeptical concerning a “shortage”. There are outlets on the internet that list ammunition-any caliber and any amount that you want- as “in stock”. The price is ridiculous, but if you're willing to pony up the cash you can have all the ammo you want. That is not a shortage. That smells like an operation.

Smells like a mostly free market to me.

Demand goes through the roof, exceeding supply.

Prices rise until the demand drops to the level of supply.

One of the most basic of economic laws.

As we added about 10 million new gun owners and 25 million new guns in the last 15 months, it is not much of a surprise.

Making ammunition is a high capital cost business. It is not easily increased in a short time frame.

About 9 billion rounds were being produced and sold for the US Market as of 2019.

There are now about 470 million privately owned firearms in the United States.

The production has been about 20 rounds of ammunition per firearm per year.

The current demand is much higher than that.

[redgolum]

A person I know said the same. Remember how so many democrats say the biggest terrorist threat is white makes? It stems from those exercises.

And for there definition they are correct

[lapsus calami]

 

 

Have a look at my home page if you want to know how they’ll make people comply, should they choose to.

 

Yes, you run from thread to thread posting elements of that homepage. You seem rather impressed by the government bogeymen and the technology they have at hand. That door swings both ways. There are those who posture that guns are a problem while others believe they are the solution when in fact it is neither. There is another factor that many appear to be unaware of. I will instruct you. Government, whether local, state or federal has a reliance on technology as you have pointed out time and again - an over reliance really - that is actually a weakness, an Achilles heel. It is quite susceptible to damage and interference, and there are many ways, many of them low-tech and unsophisticated, to bring it down. Mostly undetectable and indefensible against in most cases. Without means for the jurisdictions to administrate, consult, coordinate, all grinds to a halt. The communistas would be shrieking for proactive surveillance at every home improvement store, licensing and background checks for circuit boards and integrated circuit components before it was over. Their dominance through technology is far from assured, unless they were prepared to go to a full hands-on police state to counter threats to it, which would drive citizen tensions in a whole 'nother direction against them.

 

 

[whitney69]

And it isn’t just on our country that the street corner purchase is so bad. Especially when the US government through programs like fast and furious gets involved:

https://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/fast-furious-scandal-details-emerge-us-government-armed/storyid=17352694

And these guns were part of the sales.

wy69

[Wonder Warthog]

"Right now, the way the American sheeple are cringing in obeisance to our communist rulers, I believe no one will show up at the bridge or green... Paul and William can just leave their horses in the barn..."

And you are wrong. George III thought exactly the same way UNTIL he pushed things far enough to trip the switch. As bad as things seem, that time is not yet. Soon, but not yet. The switch is being nudged......

[BobL]

“Since you’re advising them on how to “make people comply”, why don’t you join them, and try it out at my place. You had better pack a lunch, Fed stooge.”

They don’t need my advice, this is child’s play for them. They have far more capabilities than we even know about.

[BobL]

“Mostly undetectable and indefensible against in most cases.”

Obviously I’m well-aware of the tactics which you speak of and I trust you understand that those kinds of attacks will be very sporadic and far between (if they even happen) and that elements of those same systems will likely identify the culprits...so the cats will have the advantage in this cat and mouse game.

[lepton]

“The filibuster is supposed to encourage bipartisanship - but given the new hyper-partisan reality, what it really encourages is gridlock.”

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Gridlock, when the issue at hand isn’t important enough for both sides to participate in.

[SuperLuminal]

"And you are wrong. "

I certainly hope so...

[Who is John Galt?]

Gridlock, when the issue at hand isn’t important enough for both sides to participate in.

So-called 'progressives' HATE gridlock, because it keeps them from making really important 'progress', like starting hyper-inflation, bankrupting the country, and destroying the Constitution...

[FLT-bird]

Eventually the prices will come back down. I haven’t bought any ammo in a year and I’m getting really low in some calibers but I refuse to pay these ridiculous prices.

I’ve learned my lesson. After the ammo shortage under Obama I swore I would build up a stockpile of at least 10,000 rounds. Now I see that was not enough. When prices come back down, I will build up a stockpile of at least 25,000 rounds so that I can go for years and years without buying any if necessary.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

In a word, no. You're still thinking inside the box. Imagine a geographic area where there is utter suppression and nothing electronic is functional. The only use for a gun is for personal protection during the resulting havoc.

 

 

[BobL]

“In a word, no. You’re still thinking inside the box. Imagine a geographic area where there is utter suppression and nothing electronic is functional. The only use for a gun is for personal protection during the resulting havoc.”

I don’t know too many civilians who can create that scenario, and short of nuclear-powered EMPs, I’m not sure our government can create that, except maybe on a tiny scale.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

Differences in insurgency in 1st world nations versus the third world. Over there it's mainly rusty Ak47s & IEDs - in the West it's laptops and appliance components. Alternatively, imagine WiFi traffic being picked off in real time. Reading the opposition's mail, so to speak.