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Who are the Uighurs and why is China being accused of genocide? China says crackdown necessary to prevent terrorism and root out Islamist extremism
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Posted on 04/02/2021 9:49:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: aimhigh
It’s surprising China isn’t being attacked, or even criticized by other Islamic countries.

China would nuke them in a New York minute!

21 posted on 04/02/2021 10:53:21 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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RE: Just deport them to the Islamic hellhole of their choice.

What do you mean deport?
Xin Jiang has been the home of Uighurs for a thousand years.


22 posted on 04/02/2021 10:54:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t mind the US using the Uighers as a propaganda tool against enemy China but I do mind if we take it seriously. Sorry, but I am not willing to go to war over the internal treatment of a country’s Muslims. Their treatment of their Muslims has nothing to do with US national security interests. Let the virtuous saints of Western Europe arm themselves and correct the situation.


23 posted on 04/02/2021 10:56:08 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: DIRTYSECRET

How exactly did Rand Paul create China’s Uighyer problems???


24 posted on 04/02/2021 10:56:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PIF

Moslems are the dangerous enemies of all non-moslem populations everywhere. China has a serious problem with its main moslem population and is dealing with it the way Communists deal with problems. Rapid genocide is precluded by the necessity of not scaring the world China still has to trade with and squeeze assets from for a while longer.


25 posted on 04/02/2021 11:02:27 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefegg)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
There is no genocide. This is the same movie we’ve seen before about everyone the NeoCons seek to destroy. Millions are already dead from their antics.

Exactly. "Uighyer Genocide" has been turned into a simplistic and fake meme America’s deep state is spoon-feeding to people.

China’s Uighyer/Muslims are culturally and ethnically different. Some have taken up Wahabbist/jihadist agitation like Muslims elsewhere. China has definitely turned its oppressive and Orwellian surveillance network on Xinjiang, even more than the rest of China. Ironically, it also runs a race-based affirmative action program, much like the USA does, trying to integrate Uighyers into Han society. Genocide? NO.

BTW - China uses the EXACT same narrative about American blacks to propagandize its own people about how they should dislike America.

26 posted on 04/02/2021 11:06:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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RE: Rapid genocide is precluded by the necessity of not scaring the world China still has to trade with and squeeze assets from for a while longer.

Let me try to understand what you’re trying to drive at... since they still have to trade with us, slow (not rapid) genocide is justified and since we need their goods, we should simply ignore what they’re doing?


27 posted on 04/02/2021 11:12:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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RE: Exactly. “Uighyer Genocide” has been turned into a simplistic and fake meme America’s deep state is spoon-feeding to people.

OK,it’s not genocide, therefore what follows? Incarcerating a million of them is justified?


28 posted on 04/02/2021 11:14:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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"China says crackdown necessary to prevent terrorism and root out Islamist extremism"

Can someone enlighten me, when has there been a terrorist attack in China, conducted by Uighurs?

29 posted on 04/02/2021 11:49:02 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: SeekAndFind
What do you mean deport?

Xin Jiang has been the home of Uighurs for a thousand years.

Then why is it part of China? If they'd had a big enough defense budget they'd have their own country. China does not want Muslims, but unlike many others who do not want them they are not afraid to do something about it.

30 posted on 04/02/2021 12:27:46 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Then why is it part of China?

Old political grievances are never as simple as they seem. China has coveted Central Asia, of which East Turkestan is a part, for as long as there has been a China. It's a cultural imperative for them. China does not have enough selenium in its soil to allow horses to grow bones strong enough to carry a man. That's why they couldn't eliminate the step nomad threat until the invention of modern firearms. Chinese emperors always tried to push their borders closer and closer to Ferghana, where the big horses came from. Now it's just a cultural legacy, ...sort of a Chinese Manifest Destiny.

FYI the Uighurs were once Nestorian Christians. They were the administrators of the Mongol empire. One of Hulagu Khan's wives was a Uighur Christian. That's why he left the Christians alone when he sacked Bagdad.

31 posted on 04/02/2021 1:34:42 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeekAndFind

Not even. They cannot justify active open genocide because that would probably cause Europe and America to cut China off from its markets i.e. cease trading with China- total sanctions which China cannot economically survive. I say “probably” because the fact is we do have the Democrats in charge in the USA now who are probably amenable to anything China wants to do. Genocide of a problem group is not something contrary to any ethics or morals the Communist Chinese might have since ethics and morality in such a system are in total service to the Party.


32 posted on 04/02/2021 2:50:45 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe g_g)
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To: SeekAndFind

“They make up less than half of the Xinjiang population.”

They were the PREDOMINATE ethnic group in Xinjiang in 1949 and earlier.

Communist China has spent every decade since 1949 in a slow rolling cultural genocide in Xinjiang, and always on the excuse theme of “economic development” which has predominately meant Han economic development. They are doing the same thing with Tibet. The uprisings in Xinjiang have been those occasions when the anger over the slow rolling cultural genocide got enough Uighurs angry enough to act.

If there has been any “Muslim extremists” introduced into the issue, the source has not been native Uighur Muslim attitudes, but Muslim Uighurs desperate for allies.


33 posted on 04/02/2021 3:12:10 PM PDT by Wuli
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