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Amid COVID-19 pandemic, flu has disappeared in the US
The Associated Press ^ | February 25, 2021 | By MIKE STOBBE

Posted on 02/25/2021 3:58:14 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: rstrahan

Yep.


21 posted on 02/25/2021 5:05:34 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sister went to Urgent-Care last week. Was diagnosed with Influenza b. It’s out there.


22 posted on 02/25/2021 5:13:03 AM PST by mware (RETIRED)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We’re supposed to believe that the flu suppressed because people are wearing masks, social distancing, and washing their hands.

We’re also supposed to believe the WuFlu is spreading because people aren’t wearing masks, aren’t social distancing, and aren’t washing their hands.


23 posted on 02/25/2021 5:31:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s no money in flu. Covid is where the money is. Look at all the fear porn everywhere. Never for the flu. Even bird flu, swine flu, so many times they have tried to scare us hasn’t worked all that well, partly due to media skepticism. Not this time. You would have expected to see bodies everywhere if you left the safety of your home. People are terrified and will report their neighbors for having “too many” at a gathering, or for not wearing a mask. This is a classic color revolution. Nothing but.


24 posted on 02/25/2021 5:33:06 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Sacajaweau

“This is the prelude for us to wear masks from September till June...until the end of time.”

This is my fear as well. Isn’t it interesting that antifa type protestor have historically worn masks (to hide their identity.) With the normalization of mask wearing, these anarchists can operate with impunity.


25 posted on 02/25/2021 5:36:25 AM PST by TrumpetteNJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I always thought that Trump should have held a press conference and announced that his administration had eliminated the flu. Couldn’t you just see the heads exploding?


26 posted on 02/25/2021 5:55:44 AM PST by euram
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To: TrumpetteNJ
Isn’t it interesting that antifa type protestor have historically worn masks (to hide their identity.) With the normalization of mask wearing, these anarchists can operate with impunity.

At the start of the craziness, now a year ago, you couldn't find masks anywhere, so when the mask mandate in our state was announced, I started telling people in stores that if I couldn't find a mask, I'd wear pantyhose over my head (like a bank robber).

Now it's actually being suggested....
27 posted on 02/25/2021 6:08:56 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: NautiNurse

Perhaps if the public had NOT been lied to for the last year by those in the media, government AND the medical community, there would be no “sea of conspiracy.”


28 posted on 02/25/2021 6:20:02 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Covid is the flu. It’s the PCR test run at 40 cycles that makes it look like Covid. Biggest scam in history.


29 posted on 02/25/2021 6:37:12 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Experts say that measures put in place to fend off the coronavirus — mask wearing, social distancing and virtual schooling — were a big factor in preventing a “twindemic” of flu and COVID-19. A push to get more people vaccinated against flu probably helped, too, as did fewer people traveling, they say.”

They cannot explain how all that stopped the flu but failed multiple times in 2020 to stop surges in the Wuhan Virus. In terms of size of the shell of the viral element masks and social distancing have to be just as effective against the viruses in seasonal flu as with the Wuhan Virus.

Also missing from the AP report is any question of whether the test being used to declare positive Wuhan Virus cases is falsely identifying the Wuhan Virus when the dominant viral element in a sample is the seasonal flu. But, we know, the powers that be do not want that question asked or investigated.


30 posted on 02/25/2021 6:38:26 AM PST by Wuli
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To: NautiNurse; mewzilla

“Medicos aren’t testing for it.
Not true.”


Presuming ‘nurse’ is not a euphemism, you are part of the problem with misinformation out of the medical community, starting with the top officials in the country, flittering down through the AMA to local doctors & nurses. Most of the nurses I deal with on a daily basis nod & wink in agreement with my aspersions regarding response to the ‘virus crisis.’

Just because health departments are counting ‘a number’ of influenza tests does not necessarily make your statement factual. To clarify, your statement is propaganda.

The numbers for my state do not lie:

SARS-CoV-2 tests in total: 3,526,219

https://govstatus.egov.com/OR-OHA-COVID-19

Influenza tests in total: 2928

https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/DISEASESCONDITIONS/COMMUNICABLEDISEASE/DISEASESURVEILLANCEDATA/INFLUENZA/Documents/data/Season2020-2021.pdf

Do the math:

Influenza testing comprises less than 0.1% of those tested for SARS-CoV-2 and - worse - less than 1% of those who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.

The answer may not be 100% in agreement with mewzilla’s statement, but your statement is grossly more misleading and closer to being absolutely false by an order of magnitude.

We can ‘presume’ that positive-tested coronavirus hospitalizations were also tested for influenza, but the point of my comment is neither to cast aspersions on your comment nor the medical community in that regard (mincing numbers when there are much greater battles).

The point of my comment is to point out what should be patently obvious given the subject matter of the OP:

If masking et al has practically eliminated influenza cases, then the elimination of influenza is prima facie evidence that masking et al are wholly-ineffective at defeating SARS-CoV-2 spread.

Thus, along with recent study results regarding asymptomatic spread (not), continued ‘mitigation measures’ are criminal misdeeds and all who support them are domestic enemies, deserved of righteous punishment.

If THAT statement casts aspersions upon the medical community, SO BE IT.

I have NOTHING good to say about those in “M&M” at large. The ‘news’ about influenza should make everyone in medicine hang their head in shame as they preside - shoulder-to-shoulder with overreaching politicians & bureaucrats - over the greatest crisis in US history (and it AIN’T a ‘virus crisis’).


31 posted on 02/25/2021 6:39:21 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Covid kills all other diseases. 😏


32 posted on 02/25/2021 6:40:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: DuncanWaring
We’re supposed to believe that the flu suppressed because people are wearing masks, social distancing, and washing their hands. We’re also supposed to believe the WuFlu is spreading because people aren’t wearing masks, aren’t social distancing, and aren’t washing their hands.

That makes my brain hurt.

33 posted on 02/25/2021 7:02:04 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (If your home doesn't reek of Hoppe's, you ain't paying attention.)
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To: logi_cal869
Your personal attacks toward me and the field of medicine are duly noted, and personal attacks toward FReepers are contrary to FR forum guidelines. Personal attacks toward me do not make your arguments stronger or more valid. You should already know this.

That said, testing for influenza historically and currently occurs only in symptomatic patients with respiratory/myalgia/fatigue complaints. CoV testing has been encouraged by the government wonks for all people, symptomatic or not. Widespread CoV testing was intended in the early stages of the pandemic to obtain a baseline for population penetration. Today, I can't think of a reason for widespread CoV testing of the asymptomatic general population.

Influenza is less contagious than CoV. This was recognized in the early stages of the CoV pandemic a year ago. It is still true today. Efforts to mitigate CoV spread have been remarkably successful for tamping down the spread of influenza this season.

34 posted on 02/25/2021 7:15:30 AM PST by NautiNurse (It took 20 years for FL to clean up voter fraud in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. But we did it. )
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

“Biggest scam in history.”

Yup


35 posted on 02/25/2021 7:18:45 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So you are saying Trump eradicated the common cold and the Flu? Is he the greatest President or what!


36 posted on 02/25/2021 7:46:28 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: NautiNurse

You know I believe the entire reason for so many being outraged over the handling of this China Virus is the use of it to control us. There was no necessity to lock down at all and no reason to shut down schools. We knew almost from the beginning who was most susceptible and we had the tools at hand to deal with it.

The CV disaster was completely political and because of this hundreds of thousands of people owning small businesses have lost those businesses because after being forced to close they will never again be able to open successfully

The Left wrecked a world economy simply to rid themselves of ONE man who spoke the truth and tried to inform us of their self dealing and lust for power at the expense of everyone else.


37 posted on 02/25/2021 7:48:29 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: billyboy15

Good points. Thank you for your thoughtful comments.


38 posted on 02/25/2021 8:08:32 AM PST by NautiNurse (It took 20 years for FL to clean up voter fraud in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. But we did it. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The symptoms and morbidity of COVID and the seasonal flu are remarkably similar, but they somehow got different political treatment.


39 posted on 02/25/2021 9:27:48 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam, )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Plain ol’ flu is just relabeled COVID, for political and “follow the money” purposes.


40 posted on 02/25/2021 1:04:57 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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