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Constitutional Crisis - (Vanity)
Me ^ | 1/25/2021 | frogjerk

Posted on 01/25/2021 2:07:20 PM PST by frogjerk

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To: rellic

There is a precedent in history. In England Oliver Cromwell a hated leader, was dug up from his grave of several years and his head displayed publicly.


Well, Cromwell was hated by King Charles II; many Puritans still thought of him fondly. The Founding Fathers (all of whom owned 100s of slaves /s) knew their history and that is why they prohibited bills of attainder—they did not want Congress to have the power to try citizens.

The impeachment by the House was stupid, but allowed. President Trump was President when he was impeached for a second time. But the trial in the Senate is the Senate trying a private citizen and that could or should be challenged as a Bill of Attainder.


61 posted on 01/25/2021 3:43:39 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Peter ODonnell
I'm glad you're not my lawyer. That's as far from a "simple" defense as you could possibly get.

The "simple" defense is to argue that impeachment is specifically a mechanism for Congress to remove federal officeholders, and has no applicability to a former officeholder. If such a person committed crimes, they are to be indicted and tried according to the normal criminal procedure before the usual criminal courts.

62 posted on 01/25/2021 3:46:52 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: frogjerk

It’s James Madison’s fault for not foreseeing a situation where a President would be impeached a few days before the end of his term, not allowing time for a trial to take place.


63 posted on 01/25/2021 3:56:42 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

We can always dig him up and impeach him. Nothing says we cant.


64 posted on 01/25/2021 3:59:08 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: frogjerk

Interesting.


65 posted on 01/25/2021 5:40:56 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: ZOOKER

So something that is being stated is let them convict Trump if they have the votes then just have Trump run again. The DIMS will have to bring a suit against Trump to SCOTUS to prevent him from running and then SCOTUS would rule Trump can run. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so damaging to our Republic.


66 posted on 01/25/2021 5:47:49 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I would sue the Senate on sixty amendment grounds for a speedy trial and have them have the trial NOW and not wait for Biden’s honeymoon to be over nor for the Senate to dig up former porn stars or some sort.


67 posted on 01/25/2021 5:50:00 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: frogjerk

Sixth Amendment


68 posted on 01/25/2021 5:50:59 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: drSteve78

Mass Media is reporting that Sen Leahy will ‘preside’ AND VOTE.


69 posted on 01/25/2021 6:12:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: Peter ODonnell
The defense could be as simple

With Guliani involved, it will be anything but simple.

70 posted on 01/25/2021 6:20:31 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: frogjerk; mewzilla; Chode; Lockbox; carriage_hill; tubebender; SkyDancer; Salamander; infool7; ...

nazi pelouzy and smucky upchucky only want to screw with President Trump (and Us) as much as they can and that is their MAIN OBJECTIVE EVEN OVER DOING their “job”. If they could toss Him in jail, hang, kick the body around for fun and then burn the body. These HATEFUL, VILE, MEAN,VINDICTIVE,UNCIVILIZED, LYING, THIEVING, SCHOOLYARD BULLY, FELON demonratcommieblmantifaterrorscumpedophilegoatrapers WOULD DO IT ON LIVE mainscum propagandist TV !!!

Why do they have this OBSESSION ?

It’s really pretty simple. President Trump KICKED THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS, Busted the Plan, smacked them in the face and worst of All (GASP!!!) KEPT HIS PROMISES TO AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !!!!!!

President Trump truely Loves America. President Trump SCARES the “establishment” and President Trump did more in 4 years than any other President and that was even while Both SIDES OF (see My Tagline) mostly refused to work with President Trump.

AND THAT IS WHY PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER !!!


71 posted on 01/25/2021 6:42:56 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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