CONVENTION OF STATES: THE ONLY WAY FORWARD NOW

Complete Christianity ^ | January 7, 2021 | Shane Schaetzel

[precisionshootist]

“ Just afraid that if we have a convention of states to re-write or amend the Constitution, the States will be a bunch of left wingers who actually go to the convention. All bets are off at this point and we could end up with anything.”

You’ve got to be kidding.

Please MODS shut this thread down. This is pathetic.

We need to rename this site.

[blackberry1]

Trump chose that pair. He ran the war on the virus. Stop blaming Pence for Trump’s failures. Trump bought the shutdown hook line and sinker and sunk his economy.

Biden didn’t get blamed for Obamacare. Why blame Pence for Trumps decisions?

[Slyfox]

Yeah like anyone is going to sit and "talk things out" right now when they couldn't even do what the Constitution commanded in having a debate to resolve the double set of electors in seven states leading to a vote, as the Constitution commanded. How can anyone think that any of the states will peacefully do anything?

Some people are pie-eyed about Article 5 being a repeat of the First rendition of putting the Constitution together. We don't have perfected philosopher-kings working out a government of self-governing people - we have a mob bent on treason. And that goes for the state houses too.

We would have to have at least 75 years of the exact type of education nation-wide that our Founders had to even come close to being able to do an Article 5.

Scalia said when asked about Article 5, "Not in this century." And he meant THIS one.

[fatman6502002]

I admire your belief in faith, but after seeing and now understanding how things work in the real world, I have no faith left. There is a great line in the movie El Dorado:

“Faith can move mountains Milt, but it can’t beat a faster draw”

That’s just how I see things at this point. The United States as a Constitutional Republic is finished and no amount of praying or faith is going to bring it back. Only the spilling of blood of millions is going to do that, and even at that it’s a very doubtful proposition. It could be a thousand years or more before circumstances and persons align again and are able to form “A more perfect Union” that once again will allow individual freedom to flourish. And prepare because the evil democrats are going to attempt to justify another, well for lack of a better term, holocaust. And this time those of us whom are middle class and believe in individual freedom vs collectivism are going to find that we’re going to play the role of German Jewish population circa the 1930’s.

[Bratch]

The Left would twist RINO’s into positions they’d never heard of at such a gathering.

Democrats know government. It’s the one thing they’re good at. They would crush any GOP faction and then be able to legally turn the US into the socialist utopia they’ve been lusting for.

We didn’t reach this point overnight; the only choice is to employ patience and start changing things one person at a time.

Kind of like the early Christians did in the 1st Century.

[Sheapdog]

Back in the mid 90’s there were many calls for a convention of states outside of Levin’s constant push for that. However, conspiratorial minded historians and analysts were adamant that it was a bad idea. They foresaw that once enough states agreed to convene that a bait and switch would take place and America would be in an even worse situation. A new and improved constitution would be ratified. Many of the groups advocating this route were exposed as globalist sympathizer’s or with untrustworthy leaders. I think it is clear very few established conservative groups or representatives are not compromised or are not controlled opposition. I realize Levin and others addressed this point for years saying it isn’t true but I don’t think recent events would give anyone any hope for a positive outcome other than a knife in the back.

[precisionshootist]

Sorry for sounding like a total jerk but the basics of how a Convention of States works have been explained here for years yet people still post things that show not even the most basic knowledge. You don’t need to be an expert, I’m not an expert but at least take 20 minutes to get the general idea.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

YES!!!!!

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Bottom line: The output from a COS are proposed constitutional amendments that still must be ratified by the states.

No proposed ammendment that is bonkers will get ratified.

[precisionshootist]

Bottom line: The output from a COS are proposed constitutional amendments that still must be ratified by the states. No proposed ammendment that is bonkers will get ratified.“

Exactly and after years of talking about this on FR you would think people would at least understand that basic concept, but nope.

I’m getting out of here before my head explodes. Threads like his make it clear we are unlikely to ever escape the grip of socialism.

[DoodleDawg]

In truth there are no states that voted for Biden, not by honest count.

So you're saying if the count was honest then Trump would have won the election 538 electoral votes to none?

[A Navy Vet]

"And if you open up the convention to ANY amendment, you can be sure the liberal agenda will be well-represented."

I thought that only specific amendments can be included prior to the COS convening. There use to be talk of a general Constitution Convention where anything in the body could be changed once convened, which could be disasterous. Guess I have it wrong.

[Wiser now]

The Democrats would pull the same tactics at such a convention and get rid of all the safeguards already there.
These people have no scruples, no integrity, and no shame over their hypocrisy.
Pelosi’s goal is raw power and she is almost there.

[A Navy Vet]

I just researched the COS website. It clearly explains that only the prior agreed amendments will be considered. A COS cannot change the main body of the Constitution.

Unfortunately, it takes both houses of 34 State legislatures to convene a COS. Republicans control 30. As of the date of this writing (1-8-2021), fifteen states have already passed such a resolution, so only eighteen more are needed, and twenty-two already have resolutions working their way through the state legislatures. It may be a long shot, but what else do we have now?

Please read the site below for specifics and to sign your State petition.
https://completechristianity.blog/2021/01/08/convention-of-states-the-only-way-forward-now/

[A Navy Vet]

You are not being a jerk, but maybe a little impatient. A Convention of States (COS) is a complex process, so many may not know or have forgotte.

Here's the site I researched and signed. The included PDF explains the process in detail.
https://completechristianity.blog/2021/01/08/convention-of-states-the-only-way-forward-now/

[A Navy Vet]

Access to pocket guide for Convention of States (COS) in PDF to download .

https://conventionofstates.com/

[Dr. Franklin]

Article V: Convention of States... It's a wonderful idea.. BUT..! The problem is half of our nation is NOT living in the Republic as it was founded.. Even if you managed to get the number of states necessary to hold a convention the commies will just find a judge that will say NO, and they will ignore the constitution just like they always do... They are LAWLESS.! So before you show the lawless the LAW, it will be necessary to show them the bayonet..!

Over two months after the election, not a single state legislature has used its constitutional power to appoint presidential electors. Yet, we should think that our state legislatures will be able to solve a crisis that they created through their failure to act? Was that some kind of 3D chess move? Queen to queen's level three? Yes, this solution bybasses Congress, but it still requires a functioning republic that runs free and fair elections, has a functional media, excludes illegal aliens from voting and foreign influence, and without dirty tricks from the Deep State. Right now we don't have that. So put this plan on hold until we have a functional Republic at the state level.

[Dr. Franklin]

Article V: Convention of States... It's a wonderful idea.. BUT..! The problem is half of our nation is NOT living in the Republic as it was founded.. Even if you managed to get the number of states necessary to hold a convention the commies will just find a judge that will say NO, and they will ignore the constitution just like they always do... They are LAWLESS.! So before you show the lawless the LAW, it will be necessary to show them the bayonet..!

Over two months after the election, not a single state legislature has used its constitutional power to appoint presidential electors. Yet, we should think that our state legislatures will be able to solve a crisis that they created through their failure to act? Was that some kind of 3D chess move? Queen to queen's level three? Yes, this solution bybasses Congress, but it still requires a functioning republic that runs free and fair elections, has a functional media, excludes illegal aliens from voting and foreign influence, and without dirty tricks from the Deep State. Right now we don't have that. So put this plan on hold until we have a functional Republic at the state level.

[noiseman]

At this point -the DS will spend the next 2 Biden-Harris terms “reconstructing” every state legislature

Well then, I guess we’d better work faster, huh?

[unread]

"this solution bybasses Congress, but it still requires a functioning republic that runs and fair elections, has a functional media, excludes illegal aliens from voting and foreign influence, and without dirty tricks from the Deep State. Right now we don't have that. So put this plan on hold until we have a functional Republic at the state level."

Right you are..! They say it was Tip O'Neill who said, "All politics are local". We should write that on our shirt sleeves and make sure we show up at all the town hall and school board meetings and such.. THAT'S where the real "grass roots" are and that's where we should start battle..