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Fast-spreading Covid variant detected in South Africa - similar to one found in UK
thejournal.ie ^ | 12/18/2020

Posted on 12/18/2020 4:35:38 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: gas_dr

What makes you think I defend the apostate, Bergoglio?

I’m a practicing Catholic, not a Lutheran.


121 posted on 12/19/2020 9:16:00 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: gas_dr

The apostate pope is having all his Vatican employees be administered the same vaccine you’ve been pimping.

How much stock to you hold in Pfizer?

You should be the one defending him him.


122 posted on 12/19/2020 9:20:44 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

When you are ready for redemption, The Lutheran Church welcomes you.


123 posted on 12/19/2020 9:24:23 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: ebb tide

I hold no stock in Pfizer, nice try. If you believe that the pope is apostate what are your doing about it — he is the inerrant on doctrine according to the catholic faith.


124 posted on 12/19/2020 9:25:35 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
- he is the inerrant on doctrine according to the catholic faith.

What a crock!

Both in theology and medicine.

125 posted on 12/19/2020 9:29:34 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The Vicar of Christ through apostolic succession has doctrinal inerrancy. My you are not quite the good little catholic you thought your were...


126 posted on 12/19/2020 9:32:49 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
When you are ready for redemption, The Lutheran Church welcomes you.

Why would I do such a foolish thing? I value my soul.


127 posted on 12/19/2020 9:41:28 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“Infallibility belongs in a special way to the pope as head of the bishops (Lumen Gentium 25). It is a charism of the pope ‘enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith, he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, f themselves, are not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter’ “

The infallibility of the pope is not a doctrine that suddenly appeared in Church teachings; rather, it is a doctrine that was implicit in the early Church. It is only our understanding of infallibility that has developed and more understood over time. In fact, the doctrine of infallibility is implicit”


128 posted on 12/19/2020 9:45:09 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
Quackery. Both in medicine and theology.
129 posted on 12/19/2020 9:45:47 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

It appears to me that you worship a man called the pope, not the triune God. And yes, the Diet of Worms such a definitive source. I think Luther, Galileo and numerous other men of discernment were excommunicated by the catholic church.

Why not go spend some money on indulgences to purchase your salvation.


130 posted on 12/19/2020 9:47:28 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: ebb tide

I suppose the earth really is the center of the universe, and you the very center of the earth. I am eagerly awaiting your profound exegetic bravado on the doctrine I supplied to you, from the Catholic Church, that appears to demonstrate you are at odds with your own faith.

You hypocrite. You are as of the Sadducees and Pharisees of old.


131 posted on 12/19/2020 9:49:19 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: TigersEye
I know that mortality goes up with age but the CDC reported a 5.4% IFR for people 70 and older. That is a long way from 24%.

Yea, it does sound like a bigger jump than it should be, but it's hard to track numbers down. Almost everything I find is 60-70 and 70+, Hard to find actual stats that list 75+
132 posted on 12/19/2020 9:52:12 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Mom MD
Do they all work in hospitals or in the outpatient world?
Mom is in a hospital, and is quitting if they force the vaccine. Wife is a school nurse, so she's pretty insulated from the big political stuff, but she's one of the wait-a-year-and-see ones. SiL and a cousin are in a hospital, neither want it but dunno how strongly they'll object if forced. Cousin-in-law was in a doc's office, but recently changed jobs, no clue to where. She's the ambivalent one. Rest of em are extended family and I don't really know.
133 posted on 12/19/2020 9:52:49 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: gas_dr

Why can’t you stay on topic regarding the topic of this thread: the tainted vaccine.

I think it’s because you don’t a have leg to stand on and are desperately trying to divert.


134 posted on 12/19/2020 9:53:02 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Right back at you. Why can’t you defend yourself. Oh, indefensible. Tainted vaccine. Please. No fetal tissue was used in the Pfizer vaccine. You seem to not accept the facts that I and others have proffered to you.

So you go down the religious condemnation road, and now cannot even defend your own beliefs.

You did not want to address the doctrines that I have presented from your faith as you are unable. You have probed every angle to denigrate but cannot make even a simple defense.

It exposes you for who you are. A non-thinking drone with a narcissistic flair who cannot stand on his or her own two feet.


135 posted on 12/19/2020 9:56:45 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: RomanSoldier19

This sounds disturbingly familiar.


136 posted on 12/19/2020 10:02:03 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: gas_dr

If you die from ARDS OR SARS it’s a corona death. If your comorbidities predispose you it’s still a corona death.

If you die by a bullet while positive it is a corona death. Documented.

If you die in a motorcycle accident while positive it is a corona death.


137 posted on 12/19/2020 10:06:49 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

I know, and those are untrue. I agree with you that there is abuse and I cannot stand it — however they are the exception rather than the rule. We would be foolish to say that all corona deaths are suspect because most people with corona have comorbidities.

I think we have some middle ground of agreement, but lets not maximize nor minimize the disease, lets see it for what it is. It is real, it is devastating in the elderly and unhealthy. And now it is preventable with vaccination.


138 posted on 12/19/2020 10:08:54 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“I love all the freepers who play reduce to the absurd. You want to round with me in a Covid unit and the tell me people don’t die from the disease I would welcome the opportunity to educate you.”

Please quit with absurd. I never said anything such. Everything I have posted is fact.

Your pandemic posting are not fact and are misleading.


139 posted on 12/19/2020 10:09:14 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ebb tide

“And what does the pope have to do with this thread?”

https://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_077_JPII_Voodoo.htm


140 posted on 12/19/2020 10:11:02 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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