Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 November 2020

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 29 November 2020 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

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“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

nd as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them. 1 Samuel 17:23

The ruling in Pennsylvania is a landmark ruling for the Trump case, saying these mail-in ballots were an unconstitutional plot by the Governor to bypass the power of the legislature and the certification cannot be done. What was determined by Justice Patricia A McCullough is that the case against the changing of the voting rules to allow mail-in voting was not legal and has frozen the certification of PA Electors. She also stated later in her decision it is very likely Trump will win the ruling and his case can go forward. This is the Gettysburg of this Civil War as what she is saying is that you cannot change an election with some type of state emergency like the virus to completely change the security of an election. This does not have anything to do with voter fraud, although it goes to the heart of why the election was changed, but addresses the importance of having rules and laws which are voted on by the people or their representatives rather than a politically motivated Governor and Secretary of State.

She realizes as a judge if she simply determines whether or not you have a state emergency you still have laws determining how a vote is conducted. In Pa those laws are clearly stated in their constitution and any changes to those rules have to go through the state legislation as well as have notices printed in the newspapers 60 days prior to the election. What it basically says is the people have a say through their representatives before any election changes are made so this election now has to go back to the legislature and then signed by the Governor. Basically, the Governor and SOS completely invalidated those mail in votes and fixing them is next to impossible short of a special election or the legislature voting for the electors which is the plan B of the Federal Constitution.

The bottom line of this ruling is the twenty electors given to Senile Joe are not going to be allowed until the case is settled and she indicated strongly it is going to favor Trump. She wrote, “Additionally, petitioners appear to have established a likelihood to succeed.”

The complication with this case is for some arcane reason the PA legislature takes the month of December off and they will have to call a special session to make this happen. With the stakes of the outcome is there likely will be a session if the people push hard enough on their representatives to stop this fraud.

This is the ruling the legal team has been looking for since it can be copied in all the states who randomly called an emergency mail-in ballot. Are they going to change the vote every time there is a national or natural disaster? Are you going to change the vote when there is a war or a hurricane and how does opening your election to massive fake votes help the disaster? The only disaster these states were actually claiming is Donald J Trump was president and he had to be removed at all costs. And they mean at all costs.

The power of this ruling cannot be stated strong enough. This women who is getting rape and death threats against her and her family 24/7/365 has the potential and precedent if ruled in Trump’s favor to turn over up to ten to twelve states and render the election null and void which is the correct solution.

If you have one fake vote it is one too many and this one has the potential of millions of fake votes. If there are millions or even thousands of corrupted votes in the count, then the entire count is corrupted which is what this ruling address from the formation of the new voting system.

The system Democrat Governor Wolf set up was the easily corrupted system he could devise. He knows intimately how the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh vote machines work and how to make them even more effective. He knew a flood of these unmarked and barely marked ballots could by forged and stuffed to make sure they did not have a Hillary 2016 and eliminate those glitches of too many Trump votes to manufacture, or so he thought.

Once the avalanche of Trump votes swamped PA with an 800,000-vote lead, they did not know what to do so they ordered the stoppage of counting. This was the first time in history they stopped counting the night of the election and stopped it in six states. Why would you stop counting unless you were buying time to process more ballots? There is no actual proof of these fake ballots since election fraud you do not mark fake ballots as fake, but there are mountains of circumstantial ballots and some witnesses seeing ballots arriving through the back door in boxes and trash cans.

None of this has a direct tie to the ruling and will not be evidence, this is why you have rules and laws for an election. This is why Trump and his army has to double down on this election or there will never be a fair election again. If we agree or get badgered into agreeing to the election with the, “where’s the evidence?” chant, there will never be anything resembling democracy in America, it will be over.

This ruling is a handhold to climb this mountain and overturn this injustice. If Trump can and will win this case and have the electors frozen it will be a steppingstone for the other states who have similar Constitutions and the Federal Constitution which is just as clear the state legislators decide election law. There is nothing clearer than that and if it were bypassed these mail in votes are illegal due to not being approved by the people who would never agree to this potential for malfeasance.

There is a reason most states and countries do not have mail-in votes and the exact same reason the DNC wants them. Only one Party believes it is fine to cheat and break the law if it will give you power over people. Only one Party has to lie and cheat to get elected and the other depends on the people to vote for ideas they agree with and understand they will help their lives become better. One Party has to make you vote against your own well being as a sort of penance into goodness and when there are not enough suckers to do that require election fraud and ballot box stuffing. This is why these lawsuits are so important and this one goes to the heart of the crisis.

Continue to pray for President Trump, his legal team and the wisdom and courage of the judges and legislators who are having threats against them 24/7 and will become more vile as the days move forward. This was their first real win and can be the foundation for many more to save Lady Liberty from the swamp creatures.

Pray for the election

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

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• Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out.

• Below are the words from my daily political diary. It is quite long so scroll on by if not interested. But do stay around and add your commentary and point of view to the thread.

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Yes I am compiling a Blog about the great pandemic of 2020 and how my country stupidly shut down the economy.  We will have opinions, political and cultural highlights, my personal experience, social media details, even TV reviews since I watch so much TV while in my home jail.  We shall, as always, end with a smile.
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MAJOR POLITICAL EVENTS OF THE WEEK
(another update)
Georgia and Pennsylvania and the Kraken

I would imagine that my descendants by the time they read this will know about the mess caused by the elections of 2020.  Accompany an election with a pandemic and, well you got a mess.

As of this writing the entire election is still up in the air.  Former VP Biden calls himself the "President-Elect" while current President Trump is almost nowhere to be seen.

Meanwhile a tribe of lawyers is steadfastly running various causes of cheating they claim happened to change the outcome of the election from Trump to Biden.

Yon descendants, whatever the outcome, know the election was probably stolen by the Democrats.  Please make sure your history books teach you the details or, by all means, get a book and read about what a mess it was.

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MAJOR CULTURE EVENTS OF THE WEEK
(one more update)
Thanksgiving

The biggest news about the Thanksgiving of 2020 is the demand by various of our rulers who declared we should not have more than ten guests in our home on the day of the holiday.

Such demand made most of the country angry.  We'd put up with not being able to eat in restaurants, go to the movies, have a beer in a bar.  But to be denied Thanksgiving dinner with our family (if larger than ten people) or to have the cops barge into our homes and arrest us all was not in popular favor. Even the cops refused to do such a thing.
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OVER THE INTERNET
(social media explains so much)

REVIEWS TV SHOWS
(since I watch so much TV, not for my descendants)
Review of all three CHICAGO shows...Chicago Med, Chicago PD, Chicago Fire

One Chicago returns to NBC on. Wednesday, January 6 starting with Med at 8 p.m. ET, Fire at 9 p.m. ET, and P.D. at 10 p.m. ET.

Let us begin with the one thing that is....er....unlikeable about these shows.

Why are they all named CHICAGO something?  I mean, it's not like the city of Chicago is famous for being expertly governed, a pristine city populated with wonderful medics, a great fire department, a police department filled with perfect cops.

However the shows have pretty good storylines.

Chicago Med has a great slew of medicos, including a crazy psychiatrist, with everyone loving everyone, some good medical storylines.  The Chicago fire department series has good characters, a great fire chief, firefighters that own a bar on the side.  The Chicago PD had cops that are rough and tough as one would expect with a great police chief who is steel on the outside, soft on the inside.

These shows entertain, if nothing else, and even if, at times, a bit unbelievable.

Beginning with the city of their locales.

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THE FLY ON THE WALL

Yes I am a fly and yes I also Blog.  I tend to wander around among the politicians and hear their conversation.  Because I am a fly beneficial to humanity, I share that which I hear. Bear in mind my spelling.  I am, after all, only a fly.

ELECTIONS

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It was right after the recent election that I recalled a meeting that I attended with no idea what it was all about.  I heard the election rhetoric  on the TV set as I scrounged for crumbs near the table.  Then it all came back to me and began to make sense.

I did not know, nor do I remember, the name of a single attendee at that meeting.  I recall that there were refreshments served and this is very important to a fly.  I do know that the attendees were from many different what humans in America call states.

"We got Pennsylvania all set up," I recall one attendee shouting out with glee.  

"Georgia's ready to go," another attendee said with a joyous tone.

"Are you guys sure there's no way anyone can catch on?" one attendee said with a sharp tone, evidently the human in charge of this meeting.

"We got the voting machines ready and several programmers on the side," another attendee assured.

"What are you going to do if the opposition party wants a closer look at any of the results?"

"We got counters prepared to claim a water main break.  We even have some bottles of water stored in case we need some liquid to prove," yet another voice claimed.

"If it gets bad enough we just won't let them in to observe," another human countered.

"That's not legal...," the human in charge inserted.  Yet another human held up his hand in protest.

"We've been cheating in elections for many years," a human saying he was from Wisconsin said.  "They won't bother to go much further.  We got programmers that know way more than any Republicans.  We got ballot counters that will follow instructions as regards such as signatures, postmark dates.  We have deliveries scheduled in the middle of the night.  Everybody knows Republicans don't stay up past 9 pm."

"We got this," yet another attendee shouted.

"Hell we'll board up the windows if anyone should persist.  We won't have any problems.  We got Obama elected.  We almost go Hillary in there but we really underestimated how many votes we'd have to add.  With Biden we got as many ballots as we will ever need.  We will win this."

And with this the human in charge stood and clapped his hands.  

"Okay," he said. "We got the mail ballots approved, we got a standard to get them out there.  Joe Biden will be our next President.  Keep him off the campaign trail as much as possible, ok?"

All attendees nodded yes to that request and now....well now I understand what that meeting was all about.  It only the humans knew what went on right under their noses.

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TIME FOR A SMILE

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[nikos1121]

Agree w everything you say, except don’t understand this line.

“ There is no actual proof of these fake ballots since election fraud you do not mark fake ballots as fake, ....”

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What “meeting” are you talking about?

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Heh.

THE FLY is telling the story.

It is fiction.

Been writing this column for a couple of months.

Sorry you don’t get it.

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Dr Fauxci is busy this AM

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I didn’t write the essay. FReeper Bray did. You’d know that if you read the end statement.

But I’ll try to explain. Mail-in ballots, for example, have to have the envelop they’re in postmarked and signed.

Say it was not in both cases. If I still open it, rather than throw it out, or put in the stack of improperly arrived ballots, and then put the paper ballot in with all the rest, it’s impossible to figure out which one came from the envelop that should have been discarded.

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I think these people, meaning the obsessed pajama girls and boys out there, that they were careless. They carried this massive scheme without a hint of humility.

My only thought is, “who was the mastermind?”

Trump is saying now, I’m not leaving unless you prove you got 80 million votes. How is Biden, if asked at a press conference, going to explain this..

Lastly, no one at Fox raises the hint of suspicion?

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He lives for it. The guy has been soaking up the adulation for the past year now.

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Maria Bartiromo is the only one I will bother to watch.

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Paul Ryan has spoken. He says the election is over.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/24/paul-ryan-backs-orderly-transfer-power-joe-biden/6409539002/

He was put on the Fox News board to turn it into the Never Trump Network.

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“ There is no actual proof of these fake ballots since election fraud you do not mark fake ballots as fake, ....”

what if the paper had an invisible watermark to reveal if
it was REAL?

what if >70% of the “ballots” in contested cities were
missing the watermark?

what if the Evidence were withheld until the right moment?

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What if all these fake ballots were already shredded?

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I have NewsMaxTV on running in the background. Chris Salcedo is interviewing Devin Nunes. Salcedo has a weekend show.

However, they have no specific Sunday Show. If they do, I’ll put it in the lineup...

https://www.newsmaxtv.com/

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what if there was a second marker on the ballots
such as an RFID locator (corny, isnt it),
or if there are actual videos,
each REVEALING where some of the ballots were taken
to be destroyed?

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One problem is that the public opposition to the cheating was not visible in large numbers until after the votes were “officially counted.” After a lot of the evidence like signatures and postmarks were a lot more difficult to correlate.