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Can We Trust Pennsylvania’s Polls? They show Joe Biden clinching crucial counties. So why does it feel so different on the ground here?
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Posted on 10/28/2020 12:33:46 PM PDT by Conserv

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To: DarthVader

Who wouldn’t love it (besides Democrats and the media) if the election results even come close to actually matching those numbers?

Still your pollster is totally alone on many of these, way out on a limb and (even granting that, for example, Trump doesn’t NEED to win Oregon, New Mexico etc. to get 4 more years) after it’s all over I’m sure people would like to know the identity of the person out on that limb: either so we can pat him on the back — or push him off. Just kidding, I think.


61 posted on 10/28/2020 1:23:45 PM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: BusterDog

You got it right but no plan they have is full proof!


62 posted on 10/28/2020 1:23:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: PermaRag

No he is not totally alone. There are several internals who are getting similar numbers. One reason Democrats are in full panic. Trump is working the down ticket races now.


63 posted on 10/28/2020 1:25:41 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: tired&retired

The globalists are down to there last card, trying to tank the market.


64 posted on 10/28/2020 1:25:55 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: BusterDog

Yep!! It will be an Evil cohort effort by every news outlets and social media. DOJ dc swamp etc.....it’ll be like an controlled tsunami!!


65 posted on 10/28/2020 1:27:17 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: carton253

Anyone saying “ugh” is a troll trying too hard.


66 posted on 10/28/2020 1:27:21 PM PDT by Conserv
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To: PermaRag

” I’m sure people would like to know the identity of the person out on that limb: either so we can pat him on the back — or push him off. Just kidding, I think.”

He is a Fortune 500 and very prominent. Not exclusively a political pollster but does industry and science as well. He gets paid big $$$ to be accurate.


67 posted on 10/28/2020 1:28:03 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

My FRiend, if you’re contact’s info turns out even close I’m going to be respectfully asking for your address so I can send you a little gift.


68 posted on 10/28/2020 1:28:19 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: cowboyusa

This is so obvious...we all saw it coming!!


69 posted on 10/28/2020 1:28:36 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: DarthVader

Thanks always good to get your insider counts.

Watching the TV versions designed to depress Reps and encourage Dems a downer as they all play the ratings game for viewership


70 posted on 10/28/2020 1:28:40 PM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: scrabblehack

Yeah, the Philly suburbs are toast aside from maybe Bucks and no polling data is needed to see that. Just recent election trends and the beloved voter registration trends going full speed the wrong way illustrate it nicely.

The Allentown metro area (including Lehigh County) might be a pleasant surprise though and stay with Trump as it narrowly did in 2016. It damn well better. Metro Scranton/Wilkes-Barre also voted the right way in 2016 for the first time since 1988, and also needs to come through again.


71 posted on 10/28/2020 1:28:55 PM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: cowboyusa

They are sure are. Running out of ammo. They will try an assassination attempt too.


72 posted on 10/28/2020 1:29:24 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: j.havenfarm

No need to! The best gift for me is a smile on your face!


73 posted on 10/28/2020 1:30:33 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

Thanks Darth... so you know the pollster this person is referring to?

You seem like you have a lot of inside information. I have saved your 10/26 internal polling to see how it plays out next week.. everything is very much appreciated... we all need some hope... the media is trying to suppress our vote.


74 posted on 10/28/2020 1:31:29 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: gswilder
You need to Watch trumps Arizona rally right now and you will be pumped with nothing but hope! I have seen many rallies but this one is a sea of people from one end to the other👍
75 posted on 10/28/2020 1:34:56 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: PermaRag

I’m not sure but the Trump Store mentioned in the article just might be the one in Bensalem, which is in southern Bucks. In 2016 Trump took northern Bucks, and Hillary took southern Bucks.

So Bucks could flip this time out.


76 posted on 10/28/2020 1:41:24 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: lightman

The NY Slimes won’t report on the laptop from hell. It is a lie of omission. Why should we believe a single word they write.


77 posted on 10/28/2020 1:42:26 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("Wapeace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: Conserv

Conservatives are FIVE TIMES less likely to respond to an opinion poll than Leftists are.

Landline ownership skews heavily toward older women and when there is a political gender gap like there is in this case, that is again going to give you an unrepresentative sample.

Urban voters as well as college graduates are always over sampled by pollsters - this is a well known and longstanding problem.

People do not answer calls from numbers they don’t recognize anymore.

Finally, even for those who do participate in polls there is social desirability bias. ie, people don’t want to be targeted by violent Leftists. So they - brace yourself - lie to pollsters. Some lie to pollsters deliberately because they don’t trust them and think they’re tools for Leftist propagandists aka the MSM. They want to humiliate these leftist polling shills again so they lie and say they’re voting Democrat. Then they vote for Trump.

Garbage in, Garbage out.


78 posted on 10/28/2020 1:43:16 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: rdl6989
Not Charlottesville. Not the Bob Woodward tapes. Not the pathetic pandemic response and the ruinous economy. Not the president’s suggestions that he might not accept the results of the election.

ALL complete fabrications and lies that went nowhere!

The left failed miserably. Their only path are idiot voters and cheating.

79 posted on 10/28/2020 1:45:01 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DarthVader

A lot of that slide is due to European countries locking down again, as well as tightening U.S. polls. Wall Street hates uncertainty and supposedly close elections.


80 posted on 10/28/2020 1:49:39 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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