Posted on 09/24/2020 10:06:14 AM PDT by Hojczyk
Why is the State of Pennsylvania ignoring Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution?
“The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.”
It says “Day” not three days, not two weeks.
Anything other than Election Day compromises the integrity of the vote, delays the tabulation, and opens the window for large scale voter fraud.
That second part of the clause pertains to the Electors meeting to vote, which this year is December 14.
In fact, that is the circuit breaker that puts a limit on how long the states can try to delay the results in court.
What this means is that if a state delays counting ballots for two weeks, and then takes a week to count them, and then takes a few more business days to certify them, and then has several weeks for contesting the election, and then goes to court, it could easily miss the date that the Electoral College meets to vote.
Such a state cannot come back later after the courts have ruled and demand that their electoral votes be counted, because the Constitution requires that the Electors cast their votes on the SAME day, and they missed it.
-PJ
CNN declares Hiden President before polls close. Does that make it official? (Sounds like what Nanzi says.)
In practice, Congress’s specification of “the Time for choosing the Electors” is also a specification of the time for the popular vote.
To assume that it refers to voters choosing Electors is to negate the power of legislatures to choose the method of selecting Electors, because it already jumps to citizen popular voting as the method.
-PJ
Could take months unless SCOTUS grabs the bait.
Pennsylvania election fraud could take days to process
It takes time to identify and throw away enough GOP ballots to steal the election.
Even in the Bush/Gore 2000 the Supreme Court was opposed (5-4) to violating the “safe harbor” provisions of electoral statutes, which expired roughly two hours after their decision was published.
dvwjr
The point is that we have an Election Day for the popular vote. Election Day is singular, not election days or weeks.
Anything other than Election Day compromises the integrity of the vote, delays the tabulation, and opens the window for large scale voter fraud.
But we don't. We have early voting, too. What we had was an election deadline, after which tallies were reported.
What these states are doing is allowing voting to continue after tallies are reported. They are allowing anonymous voters to submit ballots.
But to the point of this discussion, "popular voting" for the President is a proxy vote. People are really voting for Electors to the Electoral College. That people "vote" for this at all is a Constitutional power delegated to the state legislatures to decide; not the courts, not the governors, the legislatures.
The Constitution sets a date for when the Electoral College meets, and that date must be the same in every state across the country.
Any state that tries to use the courts to overturn the legislature's power to set the date for elections for Electors is violating the Constitution. Any legislature that tries to fight this in court by countering the judicial arguments is playing into their trap. The legislatures must tell the courts that their argument is moot because they have no jurisdiction in the matter.
Where it gets murky is that there are other elections on the same ballot with the Electors. These courts would have jurisdiction over those votes, but not the top vote. The solution is to either split the ballot into two, or for the legislature to require the top vote for President to be voided on all ballots received after the legislature's deadline, not the court's deadline.
What the Democrats are trying to do is create delays that impact the Electoral College. What I'm pointing out is that the Electoral College is set in the Constitution -- any state that misses it is considered abstained; they cannot come back after the Electoral College meets and demand that their votes be included.
As an example, look at the timeline of the vote in 2000 in Florida (Electoral College safe harbor date is December 12, meets on December 18):
Now, shift that timeline by another 9 days due to pushing out the return of "mail-in" ballots. That is the chaos that Democrats want to inject into the 2020 election in at least five states. The clause in Article II Section 1 mandating the Electoral College meet on the same day is what ultimately prevents this from spilling over into the new year.
There is no way for any doomsday scenario resulting in Nancy Pelosi becoming President from happening. The Electoral College will meet whether these states participate or not. If they do not participate, the 270 vote threshold for majority will be reduced by half the Electoral votes of the states that fail to participate.
-PJ
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