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Not a Good Sign: Biden Is Underperforming Hillary in Battleground States
Townhall ^ | 08/28/2020 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 08/28/2020 7:36:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: billyboy15
This election process is a major psyops by the Left and you cannot expect them to indicate even a possibility of Trump winning

The Left is blind to reality.

41 posted on 08/28/2020 8:22:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Florida is the only battleground state where Biden (+3.7) is outperforming Clinton (+2.7). Clinton was up +2.8 in August. The Florida polls would also tighten in 2016. Now, if Trump loses Florida, none of the other swing states are going to matter, anyway. “

Not sure if that is true as I have not done the detailed math.

Also not sure about why Biden would do better than Hillary in Florida unless it is because he has been running as an idealized generic democrat candidate (hiding in the basement). Perhaps a candidate who is less exposed might not have the negatives of an in your face candidate like Hillary.

Obama did some of that. Different people saw Obama as they wanted to see Obama and he benefited from that technique.


42 posted on 08/28/2020 8:22:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: napscoordinator

Dem game plan is to make an electoral mess and bully the GOPe into abandoning POTUS post election.


43 posted on 08/28/2020 8:25:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: KarlInOhio

Dems are working hard in Florida on mail in ballots. I really hope the GOP is too or we will have a big problem.


44 posted on 08/28/2020 8:26:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Raycpa
Perhaps the pollsters adjusted their turnout expectations based on 2016 results.

Very good issue to raise and discuss.

I have been looking very carefully at who is polled--and so far there has been _no_ adjustment for 2016 turnout.

But--that is _exactly_ how to look at the numbers behind the numbers.
45 posted on 08/28/2020 8:26:32 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: cgbg

Figures lie and liars figure


46 posted on 08/28/2020 8:27:58 AM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: 9YearLurker

No mystery: this election is all about mail-in ballot fraud.

Fraud is a crutch. The Dems are working hard on mail in ballots here in Florida. That’s not fraud. That’s just putting in work that any party can do.


47 posted on 08/28/2020 8:28:11 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: napscoordinator

Defund Police and cancel culture is the Democrat death nail combination.


48 posted on 08/28/2020 8:28:12 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m worried that if SCOTUS gets involved, Roberts will invent a way to get Biden in there.

Am I overly concerned with this?


49 posted on 08/28/2020 8:36:46 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: cnsmom
Defund Police and cancel culture is the Democrat death nail combination.

Yup--you nailed it.

For those who haven't seen them, here are the Trump campaign ads addressing these two issues.



Defund police:

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1278837925535535105

Cancel culture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FucY0Tm6XO0&feature=emb_logo
50 posted on 08/28/2020 8:38:28 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: plain talk
Andrew Gillum was + 3.6 over Republican Ron DeSantis in the governor's race and Bill Nelson was +2.6 over Rick Scott in the Senate race on Election Day in 2018.
Both Dems lost.
The polling in Florida is not exactly kosher.
51 posted on 08/28/2020 8:47:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
a few from the Larry Schweikart keyword:

52 posted on 08/28/2020 8:47:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Deo volente
I’m worried that if SCOTUS gets involved, Roberts will invent a way to get Biden in there. Am I overly concerned with this?

No you are not. Clearly the Dem plan is to monkeywrench the election using the Postal Service and drag the whole thing into court. If it all comes down to John Roberts voting to uphold Trump's rights under the 14th. Amendment, prepare to welcome our new socialist overlords.


53 posted on 08/28/2020 9:06:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A new Marquette Law School Poll in Wisconsin found that support for Black Lives Matter was dropping even before the riots broke out. In June, approval of protests was widespread, with 61% approving and 36% disapproving. By August, 48% were approving and 48% disapproving. It is possible those numbers will take a bigger hit after Kenosha.
54 posted on 08/28/2020 9:07:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hundreds of millions of damage and many murdered and the press only cares about one 17 year old...)
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To: Deo volente

Yes, it is a legitimate concern, that if the Supreme Court gets involved in this election, as to what John Roberts thinks.

The legal issues involved in such as case would likely revolve around mail in ballots, whether deadlines for voters to return them should be enforced, etc. There will likely be bags of ballots which are in dispute if this gets into court.

Would John Roberts rule that all ballots must be counted, that ballots with the equivalent of the hanging chad or dimpled chad must be counted? I hope this election is so clear that we don’t have to find out what John Roberts thinks.


55 posted on 08/28/2020 9:22:10 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lodi90

There is that too. But the bigger part of it by far is fraud.


56 posted on 08/28/2020 9:23:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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PIGLOSI: “The postal system is 2020 election central.....do not let the President
deter anybody from voting. Dont suppress the vote — scare people, intimidate, or
allow Republicans to diminish the role of the postal system in Democrats quest for power.”

57 posted on 08/28/2020 10:16:57 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree. I think there will almost certainly be chaos. The Democrats are planning on it.


58 posted on 08/28/2020 10:20:52 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Politicians are a dime a dozen. Leaders are priceless.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I agree with you about the appearance that the Trump team is not doing anything about the voter fraud except talk. However, just look at the masterpiece of a convention that they sprung on America without any of us knowing what was going to happen.

I hold out hope that the Trump team is one step ahead of the Democrats and preparing for their nastiness. The idea of spies in the Democrat war rooms makes me smile a lot.


59 posted on 08/28/2020 10:31:34 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Politicians are a dime a dozen. Leaders are priceless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What I don’t understand, however, is why so many people seem so utterly convinced that this time will be different.

I believe that is the definition of insanity...


60 posted on 08/28/2020 11:14:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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