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Teachers Are Wary of Returning to Class, and Online Instruction Too. Unions are threatening to strike if classrooms reopen, but are also pushing to limit live remote teaching. Their demands will shape pandemic education.
New York Times ^ | July 29, 2020 | Dana Goldstein and Eliza Shapiro

Posted on 07/29/2020 6:18:55 PM PDT by karpov

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To: hal ogen

I have one of the so called “educators” living two doors down the street. They have unruly children, the requisite Subaru, BLM sign, no one is illegal sign, everything that a good Libtard needs.


41 posted on 07/29/2020 7:31:28 PM PDT by wjcsux (Cast your vote like itÂ’s 6 November 1860.)
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To: karpov

If the children they’re teaching are brave enough to work at McDonald’s and Burger King... Why aren’t they brave enough to teach them? These people are pathetic.


42 posted on 07/29/2020 7:32:14 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: karpov

Great! I hope they don’t come back. They have already screwed up enough generations. Quit paying them though.


43 posted on 07/29/2020 7:33:29 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: karpov

They all say how much they care about the children, yet refuse to reach in person or spend too much tome on camera teaching. Make them go back to the schools for in person OR tech from the classroom live via the internet like a regular school day. If they don’t like either option, fire them. If they are such smart useful people, they can easily get a job somewhere else.


44 posted on 07/29/2020 7:36:43 PM PDT by matt04
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To: karpov

Fire the unions and defund the schools. Replace teachers with 70” flatsceens and heavily armed monitors. Have all the teaching provided from 1 centralized source like High School curriculum designed by Hillsdale University, focusing on reading writing and arithmetic. No social bullshit permitted!


45 posted on 07/29/2020 7:41:53 PM PDT by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: karpov

Well, I won’t give the NYT a click. But I think instead of re-imagining policing we should re-imagine schools.


46 posted on 07/29/2020 7:42:54 PM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: karpov

...and if they went on strike, what would that look like? Would we know?


47 posted on 07/29/2020 7:43:57 PM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: karpov

Simple.

No work no pay.

Why are they special?


48 posted on 07/29/2020 7:45:18 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: karpov

fire all the snowflakes


49 posted on 07/29/2020 7:45:40 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: karpov

Declare them “Essential Workers”.

I’m 64, Essential Worker(Instrumentation & Electrical engineer in petrochem...we make bleach and other required items), and have been working through this entire “event”. My 3 sons(LEO, food chain worker,and aerospace/software engineer) are all “essential” and have also been working through this.

Yet, teachers cannot possibly work?
Let me go gaze at my property tax bill and ponder the large percentage taken from my wife and me for local school funding.


50 posted on 07/29/2020 7:47:04 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m actually on the side of the teachers on this one — at least in principle. If COVID-19 is serious enough for businesses to shut down and for people to work from home if they are able, then it’s serious enough to keep the schools shut ... since teaching is obviously a job that can be done from home.

Thats the whole point, its not serious enough where anything should be shut down! Teachers are in the most optimum environment. Kids dont get it, so teachers are safe. This is all to make people who have to work for a living suffer. Why in the hell would anyone shut anything down for a disease that is 98% survivable and if you have doses of hydroxychloquine and zinc, that make it damn near 100% survivable. Meanwhile the flu season is spreadable from kid to kid to teacher and can be far more fatal to kids!


51 posted on 07/29/2020 7:50:54 PM PDT by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: karpov

They are wary of returning to the classroom but they sure as heck won’t miss out on a good riot...err protest.


52 posted on 07/29/2020 7:59:31 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: JCL3

I’m a ditchdigger and we haven’t missed a day

We actually fall under 3 of the criteria...

Agriculture
Public Works
Flood control


53 posted on 07/29/2020 8:02:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: karpov

This is a golden opportunity to destroy the Marxist teachers unions and replace all the communist brainwashers with patriots who have the education to teach our children to love their country NOT TO HATE THEIR COUNTRY.


54 posted on 07/29/2020 8:04:00 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: karpov

Then no pay.


55 posted on 07/29/2020 8:32:07 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: karpov

Bkmrk


56 posted on 07/29/2020 8:38:47 PM PDT by boxlunch (The US Pravda ( MSM), Demcheviks, leftists, Chicomms, Soros. All in this together.)
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To: JCL3

Bkmk


57 posted on 07/29/2020 9:06:03 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: hal ogen
Every “educator “ I have ever met constantly whines about how hard they work...and how underpaid they are. Spare me. They only “work” about 8 months each year.

Every teacher I have ever known works 9 to 12 months a year. And, they are only paid for that time. They just choose to have their pay spread out over a years time. Yes, they are overworked and underpaid. I would rather work in a prison than in an inner city high school. And, so would you if you spent any time in them.

58 posted on 07/29/2020 9:30:43 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: karpov

Yep. I’ve been fighting all these battles in real time, with the school board and the district, when first the teachers won—no in person schooling—and now they are on to the second topic—no live, synchronous teaching. They want to throw up one assignment a week plus a link to a Khan Academy or youtube video and they won’t have to teach at all.

The wealthier districts are more likely to be requesting live synchronous teaching. Teachers in general don’t want to do live teaching and/or don’t want to be filmed.

My daughter’s private school is offering live synchronous teaching and my son’s public school is debating it with the union as we speak. The district wants 75% live teaching.

This is a mess. I’m a few days ahead of the NYT this whole summer. The United States is collapsing educationally while we talked about bars and restaurants all summer.


59 posted on 07/29/2020 9:53:45 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: eastexsteve

The teachers in my district have not been “perfecting distance learning” all summer—they have declined to do anything along those lines because they are “not being paid.”

“virtual learning” does not work. It is posting one assignment a week and one link to a Khan academy video a week. Of the 14 high school teachers between my two teens, only two did anything at all last Spring—the rest disappeared. The whole thing is soul deadening, isolating, and depressing.

I’m sorry your wife’s computer and printer didn’t work when she returned to the classroom but honestly those items are not needed right now for in person, excellent 5 day live instruction in a classroom. It’s time to be creative, hold classes outside, make it happen. most other nations in the world have been open for months now.

I’m glad your district reopened. Mine won’t—maybe all year. Maybe never (CA).


60 posted on 07/29/2020 10:07:38 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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