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Cholesterol-lowering meds have potential to downgrade COVID-19's threat to that of the common cold
Medicalxpress ^ | JULY 15, 2020 | Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Posted on 07/27/2020 4:33:02 PM PDT by absalom01

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To: absalom01

I have been taking fenofibrate for several years. Don’t get lung infections as a rule, but my sinuses make up for it big time.


41 posted on 07/27/2020 8:25:04 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Jewbacca

Fenofibrate is a different class of drug.

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One of the gazillion drugs I take every day.

At 75 years old, I’m in the danger zone for the Chinese flu.


42 posted on 07/28/2020 4:09:31 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: AlligatorEyes; LouisianaJoanof Arc; dp0622; thesearethetimes...; jacquej; GnuThere; ...

LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

Thanks ConservativeMind. Its been a while since I pinged the gang here, but then there hasn’t been much on low carb due to the virus. For this article, while it’s not directly saying that low carb is good for dealing with the virus, it does seem to imply it, which I suspect most of us know instinctively anyway.

[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]


43 posted on 07/28/2020 5:48:38 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Jim Noble

Ping


44 posted on 07/28/2020 6:09:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 21twelve

The big SARS outbreak was 2002–2004. I bought the mask stash that I started COVID with a year or two later, because of SARS. They’d been in the prepper closet all those years, until COVID. All good made in USA stuff, 3M and Moldex. Past nominal expiration dates, but they’d been in a climate controlled basement, appear fine.


45 posted on 07/28/2020 6:15:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

India has big numbers on prophylactic HCQ, and they’re good. If you dig around in the Twitter link I posted earlier, you can find some of their numbers on that.


46 posted on 07/28/2020 6:17:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Me too! Plus another couple of boxes due to wildfires. I bought a bunch of rubber-bands in case I need to replace the elastic bands which seem to be the weak point. Have a few masks with broken straps - some day I’ll fix them up. I have enough now that I can let them sit 2-3 days which is one way of getting them decontaminated.


47 posted on 07/28/2020 6:24:04 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: absalom01

Since the apparent route proposed here is a reduction of triglycerides in the blood, the paleo and keto diets ought to have the same effect. No?


48 posted on 07/28/2020 6:24:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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The plain and obvious answer is to place all patients on a no carb/low protein, diet

THIS. A thousand times this.

(not sure about the no protein aspect)

49 posted on 07/28/2020 6:53:18 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: Moonlighter

*** “Pretty early on there was a finding that people on Keto diets where less susceptible to Covid. That would gel with the info presented here” ***

Anyone that fixed any “itis” can withstand the common cold
just cut out the Carbs, the source of most Inflammation.

As I understand it just about all diseases need an entry point that is usually an “itis” which is just a fancy way of saying any prolonged inflammation...

PS

I have absolutely ZERO concern about COVID personally Healthwise (and I am over 65) ... everything it is doing to our Country is quite another-thing. And... Mask’s are just Stupid.


50 posted on 07/28/2020 10:36:31 AM PDT by TexasTransplant ( I am going back to work... permission or not)
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To: 9YearLurker

Well, I’m not a doctor, just some rando posting stuff off of the internets, but from this paper, I don’t think that diet alone would have the same effects.

According to the guys quoted, they figured out that the virus mucks up at least three enzymes in infected cells, and that the fenofibrate interferes with that interference, and prevents the synthesis of viral protiens.

Myself, I’m amazed that this level of detail could have been discovered so quickly. Biology has certainly come a long way in the past couple of decades.


51 posted on 07/28/2020 1:24:02 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

So training the body to use fat instead of carbs would mean less fat if you don’t add in carbs. That to me seems to be the Keto plan. Let your body process fat.

The facts on the keto diet and cholesteral | KETO-MOJO

https://keto-mojo.com/article/health-keto-diet-cholesterol

May 03, 2019 · The focus should be on triglycerides and HDL and research is showing that a low-carb ketogenic diet usually results in improved cholesterol profile by lowering triglycerides and increasing HDL. Slightly higher LDL cholesterol is typically offset by having lower small particle LDL (associated with heart disease) and higher large particle LDL (not associated with heart disease).


52 posted on 07/28/2020 2:34:28 PM PDT by dblshot (R)
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To: BobL

Boo yah! I saw that, too. Keto supposed to help keep down swelling and fluid retention after some surgeries, too.


53 posted on 07/28/2020 2:37:39 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: absalom01

I just read what was posted for the thread—and it sounded like carbs kicking around led to fat in your lungs. So maybe you could use this treatment to deal with that, or maybe by not eating carbs to start with you wouldn’t have carbs in your system to cause the trouble to start with? I’m obviously no biologist.


54 posted on 07/28/2020 4:08:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ConservativeMind

Where did you hear the liver converts fat into glucose?


55 posted on 07/29/2020 6:48:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Your bloodstream always has blood glucose, even if you have been doing extreme Keto for years. It makes it from fat and protein.

I find my glucose stabilizes around 83-85. Currently, my wife and I just eat “lower carb,” but with intermittent fasting, my wife’s recent blood test (two weeks ago) showed glucose of 83, with a prior one two months ago at 87. She and I both found ourselves at 107-108 five years ago and that made us shift away from high juice/carb use. We were drinking a lot of tart cherry and pomegranate juice for the antioxidants, but despite not tasting “sweet,” those had a ton of natural sugars.

Here are a few resources on the use of fat as blood sugar:

The Production of Glucose From Protein or Fat

https://www.livestrong.com/article/457948-the-production-of-glucose-from-protein-or-fat/

Does Fat Convert to Glucose in the Body?

https://www.livestrong.com/article/495873-the-conversion-of-fat-to-glucose-in-the-body/

Optimal blood glucose and ketone levels for ketosis

https://optimisingnutrition.com/the-glucose-ketone-relationship/

56 posted on 07/29/2020 8:06:53 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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