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New surveillance video shows George Floyd in struggle with cops in back of police car BEFORE being pulled out and 'killed' by officer Derek Chauvin
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 31, 2020 | jenny stanton

Posted on 05/31/2020 2:08:16 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: tennmountainman
Can you provide a link to that unedited video you mentioned of him standing up and saying he can’t breathe?

I don't recall saying the video showed him saying that, but it is what was reported. My recollection is it was in the police report or the call for the ambulance.

The link to the video of the struggle in the car is on this thread, I believe.

401 posted on 05/31/2020 8:07:53 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: snarkytart

“IT SAYS IN THE PRELIMIARY AUTOPSY REPORT HE DIED FOR UNDERLYING HEART CONDITION.”

You have access to that? I really doubt it.


402 posted on 05/31/2020 8:09:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: 2banana
Police used an approved restraint position.

My oldest son is a LEO. He says that is NOT an approved restraint position in any department in the United States of America. I'll take his word for it.

403 posted on 05/31/2020 8:11:34 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TexasGator

I said he passed out, this was posted by USA Today, and here is the link:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/31/george-floyd-anger-over-his-death-sparked-part-coronavirus/5293446002/

So according to this, he did not die at the scene, and other reports state that he died at the hospital.

So I did not post fake news.


404 posted on 05/31/2020 8:11:50 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket

“So according to this, he did not die at the scene, and other reports state that he died at the hospital.”

Your link states nothing about when he died. Don’t send me out on any more snipe hunts.

I have seen no reports that he died at the hospital. Are you making that up?


405 posted on 05/31/2020 8:18:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: usconservative

Well, looks like your son is wrong.

It was a very common restraint technique until a few years ago and some PDs, have never banned it.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/chicago-police-deadly-force-policy/

“My oldest son is a LEO. He says that is NOT an approved restraint position in any department in the United States of America. I’ll take his word for it.”


406 posted on 05/31/2020 8:19:41 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: TexasGator

Unless your inept, you can do a google search.
This one last time, I will hold your hand thru this:

https://www.ems1.com/fatal-incidents/articles/dispatch-recordings-george-floyd-was-in-cardiac-arrest-when-ems-arrived-xtikhsaX8aF14EFn/

Emergency personnel worked on Floyd for nearly an hour before pronouncing him Dead at Hennepin Healthcare.

So, he did NOT die at the scene, in fact, he was alive for nearly an hour after being picked up by the Ambulance.

I am now done. Everything I said is backed up by links just for you.


407 posted on 05/31/2020 8:30:51 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket

“Having 7 years experience as an EMT, and having run Ambulance for as many years, once in the ambulance, he would have been given Oxygen, the hospital would be contacted, If he needed fluids a paramedic could do so intravenously, and then he would be monitored on the way to the hospital.”

Let me get this straight. If you had a nonresponsive patient due to a neck hold the only thing you would do like these guys would be to straighten the blanket over him and straighten your cap before loading him onto the bus?


408 posted on 05/31/2020 8:31:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Rustybucket

“Emergency personnel worked on Floyd for nearly an hour before pronouncing him Dead at Hennepin Healthcare.
So, he did NOT die at the scene, in fact, he was alive for nearly an hour after being picked up by the Ambulance.”

Thanks for the link. The first paragraph states he was dead before he got to the hospital.


409 posted on 05/31/2020 8:33:53 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Read my previous post from the EMTs, they will explain it to you.


410 posted on 05/31/2020 8:33:54 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Morgana

He was down and cuffed the police officer had no business with his knee on the man’s neck. The videos I saw clearly showed him subdued, And Mr. Floyd was clearly in breathing distress.

Mr. Floyd was murdered by police officers. Plain and simple.


411 posted on 05/31/2020 8:40:52 PM PDT by JoeRender
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To: Rustybucket

As long as he had an airway, and a heartbeat, the officers behaved correctly.


Totally insane green light to police state thugs. You don’t think blue statea cops won’t do that to conservatives at a Trump rally? After all “as long as he has an airway and heart beat the officers behaved correctly”.


412 posted on 05/31/2020 8:42:16 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: TexasGator

My God man!

Unresponsive and without a pulse, is not dead. Heart Attacks stop your heart. Paddles zap it back. Chest compressions work sometimes too. Cardiac Massage, intravenous medicines are used as well, and many people recover.


413 posted on 05/31/2020 8:42:32 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket

“So, he did not die at the scene, it was later determined that he died of a heart attack, and not strangulation or anything to do with pressure on his neck.”

Every indication says he died at the scene.

It has not been determined that he died of a heart attack.

There has been no determination that the pressure on the neck did not cause his death.

Please be honest.


414 posted on 05/31/2020 8:42:59 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: 2banana

“It was a very common restraint technique until a few years ago and some PDs, have never banned it.”

Please cite any police procedures that approve the knee on neck for a person on his stomach and handcuffed.


415 posted on 05/31/2020 8:47:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

He was in Cardiac Arrest

A heart attack is when blood flow to the heart is blocked, and sudden cardiac arrest is when the heart malfunctions and suddenly stops beating unexpectedly. A heart attack is a “circulation” problem and sudden cardiac arrest is an “electrical” problem

note the lines in the link:

https://www.ems1.com/fatal-incidents/articles/dispatch-recordings-george-floyd-was-in-cardiac-arrest-when-ems-arrived-xtikhsaX8aF14EFn/


416 posted on 05/31/2020 8:49:16 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket

“Unresponsive and without a pulse, is not dead. Heart Attacks stop your heart. Paddles zap it back. Chest compressions work sometimes too. “

Didn’t work this time. Ergo he was dead. No oxygen to the brain for several minutes means death.


417 posted on 05/31/2020 8:53:11 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Rustybucket

But 90 minutes after his initial encounter with Minneapolis police, Floyd was pronounced dead at HCMC.

Floyd’s official time of death was recorded at 9:25 p.m.


418 posted on 05/31/2020 8:54:51 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket

“He was in Cardiac Arrest”

LOL. Did you see the CPR? NOPE.


419 posted on 05/31/2020 8:55:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Your hopeless. Your not reading the provided EMT link which answers your statements.

Are you one of those guys that HAS to have the last word?

Pathetic.


420 posted on 05/31/2020 8:58:21 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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