Posted on 05/27/2020 12:10:17 PM PDT by Yosemitest
My science says otherwise.. you believe yours I’ll believe mine.
Other than that I don’t give a f’k.
Thank you! I thought FR was going nuts! Either that or I entered into Bizzaro FR by mistake!
Yeah.. some people just don’t get it.
Good test on masks: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/153567601001500204
I agree.
But what if the person is sick but doesnt know it? Up to 40% of infected COVID-19 persons have no symptoms but dont know that they are sick and are actively spreading the virus.
They feel healthy! So why should they wear a mask?
But theyre not healthy. They could give you the virus during one short conversation.
The asymptomatic spread of this virus is the truly devastating feature of this virus. If the asymptomatic spreader is wearing a mask, the likelihood of them spreading the virus is greatly diminished. Its not rocket science.
Are you an asymptomatic virus spreader? How do you know?
Try that with a deviated septum. You won't last long.
People do all sorts of things on the job that are health risks.
Wikipedia is leftist/intel agency propaganda.
Mikovits blew the whistle on contaminated blood suppplies and vaccines and the CDC/Fauci establishment took criminal and strong arm action to discredit her.
Dig a little deeper before spewing such propaganda.
The same people that say it traps in CO2 (a gas) are the same folks saying the mask doesn’t stop a virus (a particle).
And BTW - many of those hardworking Americans have been wearing masks caked with wood, sheetrock and cement dust.
Just curious, how did you survive the 2017-18 epidemic where 48.8 million Americans got sick, 959,000 were hospitalized and over 79,000 people died?
Obviously you were one of the 280 million people who never got sick, never needed a mask and never needed social distancing......
How was that possible?
bttt
Great links. But you are replying incorrectly. Maddog was saying that the masks don’t keep the particles out, and this is also mostly correct.
Worse, the masks actually concentrate the particles that you do aspirate and the mask itself has negative consequences beyond the concentration of CO2 and impairment of breathing for the individuals wearing specific types of masks (Home made mostly) (The lightweight surgical masks have much less impact but this is because they are very thin and very light weight which.. is about them being designed to accomplish the goals laid out in the papers you cite.)
The mask doesn’t protect you, and wearing it for significant periods increases your risk and the complications you will be facing.
The studies you are citing are all about containing the particles that you aspirate so that they are not expelled into the air around you if you are sick.
All fine and good. But, in the wild you get to see in the US what happens when you attempt to force people to wear these things. First, they don’t. Second, they wear them wrong.. mostly around their neck, or with their nostrils out.. and they play with them continuously because the plume of breath is forced up the face into the eyeballs.. fogging glasses or simply causing irritation.
I used to be a huge advocate of masks until I notice that only about 50% of wearers actually used them correctly, and those that did clearly were suffering. When you couple this with a very uncertain cost benefit ratio and increasing harm over time, this rush to masks was wishful thinking.
Surgeons wear these masks to protect the patients from casual exposures to what they brought into the room. They are purposely made exceptionally cheap so they can be disposed frequently during the day, typically at each hand washing session which happens to be the Number One infection control move for hospitals, not face masks but relentless washing.
But, there is a deeper problem and that is turning a whole country into germaphobes and the consequence is that the whole of the society is made more not less vulnerable to the next wave of unknown diseases.
One of the facets of this COVID panic that is only now being discussed is why it didn’t spread like they keep expecting and the answer is starting to become considered that some previous exposure to a Corona virus has already prompted immunity in a large percentage of the population which seems to follow an inverse social distancing pattern with the youngest being the most immune and the least social adults being most vulnerable.
Clearly the regimens of increased requirements for masks is not working or at least having any significant impact, and thus.. even if it is “good” it has downsides that were obvious before KAREN came along to bully everybody into complying.
If it keeps you from licking the steering wheel, it is a win.
They wear masks because masks work, and apparently they are bright enough to realize that. Also apparently, a lot of Americans are not.Most people in Asia wear masks because of the smog.
The mask you wear is for YOUR protection, not mine.
It's none of your business if I wear a mask or not.
If you wear a mask, why do I need one?
Before this phony flu pandemonium you could go into any medical facility and the personnel wearing masks would remove or lower them to talk to you.
IOW, most people are bright enough to know they wear masks for THEIR protection, not yours.
No, it’s science. And science is about MEASURMENT. Here:
Particle sizes stopped by masks:
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c03252
And what percentage of potential masks users have deviated septa??
And who, exactly, said that. Certainly not me. I simply posted DATA from MEASUREMENTS.
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